Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B80C001E for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 18:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8636FC59 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 18:28:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp3.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1wwte__dkaY3 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 18:28:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from mail-il1-x134.google.com (mail-il1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::134]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B94760AA2 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 18:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-il1-x134.google.com with SMTP id u5so2165051ilq.9 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 10:28:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Qfk7fK1paJOj9QzQa8g//X7OEKn6H52bbaEJ3orwebA=; b=pOJnad1YUbAuA4dB6fgb/lNp/KCGYqwaSFXPeYlA8wNcqUSviVYJG+qZgNIEis08Rd hZqyuPU76d0aoVHe57O8UpPbpBaWyb1J9hJUNjz0sSMfKEv6e39ictLrN8Ji4YqX+VaS GXfyx8T7XDfju9A/2twt4y+/na0vwaRiKOFVIo/7FhdE0ly2Ui2SGYMk3r0Trixn8xzF pI21mqec7H2eW1X3N3cPXX3OP8txHVYCyTC69ex84kKGb0uzfWZP3LMRTCl220HMIwu9 p6i1Fm8xTkjnhPxgl1txMNVwBoziINKzWgseKhr2JY8FZWQHpPLfOnSLSHr+bOQtU8oZ BW7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Qfk7fK1paJOj9QzQa8g//X7OEKn6H52bbaEJ3orwebA=; b=1JCTMb99wnBhq5hbUZx46y+bPkWRTbhsuMyA4aJTWyxlyPJqaGlhB3iKpmlzTy/I16 5uFuAzFvQadT3+FC5Fz44HYC7aJvik528MiykyjiKdkSl0/JQmtP5TlNdlmAljjAZl3l KFiIgLa6QwvGfEoJiEI13nNw3JLoXujqLNqkQtDE15REtFXFoteVjwu2wHDvBpEQeDKC e46B68dufDDWFDDE6ftTXhGtBRUfZVJl6kCm9dI/BqUf6PO3imZBfzW8dpe2AbFravU4 z4QBO/i0sHm3aV7lUBZonZk+pLs364aGDDNyRY9vzghSu6hs7z0EQz5woSNvnrN0pbhf Tj3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531jmNWMVEroRCrhwF/LGX6ydwJRLlkMOcu0gpJMtOu86f+G1G8S UmWmojK6998hgnLGktPiSssRoDg5Yvr/r4O/6bY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxsJFtXx+PRDJkcQCzQHq6OMWleqlmjnKxsvHAF9wc9XQkT/5u039KxjWEb8Jpaqpm6dr8hfvEgCLrIzYY4st8= X-Received: by 2002:a92:cda6:: with SMTP id g6mr3100548ild.232.1642098509173; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 10:28:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Steve Lee Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 10:28:18 -0800 Message-ID: To: Prayank , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005359eb05d57adac7" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 18:49:21 +0000 Cc: info@bitcoindefensefund.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 18:28:32 -0000 --0000000000005359eb05d57adac7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I think the word "The" is important. The title of the email and the name of the fund is Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund. It is "a" legal defense fund; not THE Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund. There is room for other funds and strategies and anyone is welcome to create alternatives. I also don't see why Alex or anyone should be denied the opportunity to comment on future soft forks or anything about bitcoin. Alex should have no more or less right to participate and his comments should be judged on their merit, just like yours and mine. On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 9:37 AM Prayank via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Hi Jack, > > > > The main purpose of this Fund is to defend developers from lawsuits > regarding their activities in the Bitcoin ecosystem, including finding and > retaining defense counsel, developing litigation strategy, and paying legal > bills. This is a free and voluntary option for developers to take advantage > of if they so wish. The Fund will start with a corps of volunteer and > part-time lawyers. The board of the Fund will be responsible for > determining which lawsuits and defendants it will help defend. > > Thanks for helping the developers in legal issues. Appreciate your efforts > and I understand your intentions are to help Bitcoin in every possible way. > > > Positives that I see in this initiative: > > 1.Developers don't need to worry about rich scammers and can focus on > development. > > 2.Financial help for developers as legal issues can end up in wasting lot > of time and money. > > 3.People who have misused courts to affect bitcoin developers will get > better response that they deserve. > > > I had few suggestions and feel free to ignore them if they do not make > sense: > > 1.Name of this fund could be anything and 'The Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund' > can be confusing or misleading for newbies. There is nothing official in > Bitcoin however people believe things written in news articles and some of > them might consider it as an official bitcoin legal fund. > > 2.It would be better if people involved in such important funds do not > comment/influence soft fork related discussions. Example: Alex Morcos had > some opinions about activation mechanism during Taproot soft fork IIRC. > > > > -- > Prayank > > A3B1 E430 2298 178F > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > --0000000000005359eb05d57adac7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think the word "The" is important. The title o= f the email and the name of the fund is Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund. It is &= quot;a" legal defense fund; not THE Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund. There = is room for other funds and strategies and anyone is welcome to create alte= rnatives.

I also don't see why Alex or anyone should= be denied the opportunity to comment on future soft forks or anything abou= t bitcoin. Alex should have no more or less right to participate and his co= mments should=C2=A0be judged on their merit, just like yours and mine.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 9:37 AM Prayank via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundatio= n.org> wrote:
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Hi Jack,


>=C2=A0The main purpose of this Fund is to defend = developers from lawsuits regarding their activities in the Bitcoin ecosyste= m, including finding and retaining defense counsel, developing litigation s= trategy, and paying legal bills. This is a free and voluntary option for de= velopers to take advantage of if they so wish. The Fund will start with a c= orps of volunteer and part-time lawyers. The board of the Fund will be resp= onsible for determining which lawsuits and defendants it will help defend.<= br>

Thanks for helping t= he developers in legal issues. Appreciate your efforts and I understand you= r intentions are to help Bitcoin in every possible way.


Positives= that I see in this initiative:

1.Developers don't need to worry about rich scammers and ca= n focus on development.

2.Financial help for developers as legal issues can end up in wasting l= ot of time and money.

3.People who have misused courts to affect bitcoin developers will get be= tter response that they deserve.


I had few suggestions and feel fre= e to ignore them if they do not make sense:

=
1.Name of this fund could be anything and 'The = Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund' can be confusing or misleading for newbies.= There is nothing official in Bitcoin however people believe things written= in news articles and some of them might consider it as an official bitcoin= legal fund.

2.It wo= uld be better if people involved in such important funds do not comment/inf= luence soft fork related discussions. Example: Alex Morcos had some opinion= s about activation mechanism during Taproot soft fork IIRC.



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