Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02AD03C8 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:23:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 510EA1D3 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pabkd10 with SMTP id kd10so19321962pab.2 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:23:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=YY+CXuyjbuPdbZZ7x1af6+YBjRxyJjL/hj/IwbEoGos=; b=xPRWd9X8zdO7ZHtBEP/3biDGMdQ3g487ZKHMHeXd+8Lp6QaXfdPSpUV2PVgGDehlUy 2bwM8/aJYxLfNVeRCbW2tR+FFoRe1Bh1mWVTDLVGYKu47CHSWBuTA369WEIvZOsOjwnn nzgECZmkAtGWtcdK7+80+g0PMJdgTvNzoLD+JHHQrNMNhbB9fFw7zv31LhOujZJ7uCVQ pcm4P+UK78wX7dlhgqNhiwg7Kvm7K5g9LgmxJnk7JvXznQ1T93+hiFVKeRUzfJDH5uex bDYDrxduAlpwoGu314y78j4ZEXTtrhoaAk50I+6Gdpw5VLyC4bNMea2kzahP13UZpu3e gp5Q== X-Received: by 10.70.33.67 with SMTP id p3mr34955030pdi.126.1437769411894; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com. [76.167.237.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y2sm6054367pdi.80.2015.07.24.13.23.29 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7BFB9391-3DE7-45CD-908E-7AD47B586058"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 From: Eric Lombrozo In-Reply-To: <20150724174320.GB25947@savin.petertodd.org> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:23:27 -0700 Message-Id: References: <2275059.uyAkQvreAU@coldstorage> <20150724174320.GB25947@savin.petertodd.org> To: Peter Todd X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,LOTS_OF_MONEY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Jean-Paul Kogelman via bitcoin-dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Roadmap 2015, or "If We Do Nothing" Analysis X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:23:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_7BFB9391-3DE7-45CD-908E-7AD47B586058 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CB2AFFCD-79BE-474C-A578-D687A774FB34" --Apple-Mail=_CB2AFFCD-79BE-474C-A578-D687A774FB34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks for bringing up the CCSS, Adam and Peter. I was actually working on a post inviting everyone in this mailing list = to come and participate=E2=80=A6but you guys beat me to it. :) The CCSS is an open standard, born out of the belief that sharing the = industry's best practices amongst each other and with the community at = large benefits everyone. To read more about it and how you can contribute, please visit = http://blog.cryptoconsortium.org/contributing-to-the-ccss/ = The standard: https://cryptoconsortium.github.io/CCSS/ = The github repository: https://github.com/CryptoConsortium/CCSS = - Eric > On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev = wrote: >=20 > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 03:39:08PM +0200, Thomas Zander via = bitcoin-dev wrote: >> On Friday 24. July 2015 05.37.30 Slurms MacKenzie via bitcoin-dev = wrote: >>> It's worth noting that even massive companies with $30M USD of = funding don't >>> run a single Bitcoin Core node, >>=20 >> I assume you mean that they don't have a Bitcoin Core node that is = open to >> incoming connections. Since that is the only thing you can actually = test, no? >=20 > We can test the fact that blockchain.info's wallet and block explorer > has behaved in a way consistent with not running a full node - they = have > shown invalid data that any full node would reject on multiple > occasions, most recently invalid confirmations during the BIP66 fork. >=20 > -- > 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org > 000000000000000006baf20e289b563e3ec69320275086169a47e9c58d4abfba > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev --Apple-Mail=_CB2AFFCD-79BE-474C-A578-D687A774FB34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thanks for bringing up the CCSS, Adam and Peter.

I was actually working = on a post inviting everyone in this mailing list to come and = participate=E2=80=A6but you guys beat me to it. :)

The CCSS is an = open standard, born out of the belief that sharing the industry's best = practices amongst each other and with the community at large = benefits everyone.

To read = more about it and how you can contribute, please visit http://blog.cryptoconsortium.org/contributing-to-the-ccss/<= /div>

The = standard:  https://cryptoconsortium.github.io/CCSS/

The github = repository: https://github.com/CryptoConsortium/CCSS


- Eric

On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev = <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 = at 03:39:08PM +0200, Thomas Zander via bitcoin-dev wrote:
On Friday 24. July 2015 = 05.37.30 Slurms MacKenzie via bitcoin-dev wrote:
It's worth noting that even massive companies = with $30M USD of funding don't
run a single Bitcoin Core = node,

I assume you mean that = they don't have a Bitcoin Core node that is open to
incoming connections. Since that is the only thing you can = actually test, no?

We can test = the fact that blockchain.info's wallet and block explorer
has behaved in a way consistent with not running a full node = - they have
shown invalid data that any full node would = reject on multiple
occasions, most recently invalid = confirmations during the BIP66 fork.

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