Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Wc78t-0004EN-Po for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:51:47 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from wp059.webpack.hosteurope.de ([80.237.132.66]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1Wc78p-000804-W6 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:51:47 +0000 Received: from [37.143.74.116] (helo=[192.168.0.105]); authenticated by wp059.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1Wc78j-00071i-Dw; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 07:51:37 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A55629E2-A84E-4577-BC3A-3D2130B3CABC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Tamas Blummer In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 07:51:45 +0200 Message-Id: References: <53540715.7050803@xylon.de> <1C408C12-B39B-46E4-B997-153D566158B1@swipeclock.com> <5354154C.1080908@olivere.de> <4098C706-D67F-474E-9C13-E4C8F56B41ED@swipeclock.com> <11664045-9CAB-4A9B-BE45-271496D870CD@swipeclock.com> To: Pieter Wuille X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de; tamas@bitsofproof.com; 1398059504; dcb39fca; X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1Wc78p-000804-W6 Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] "bits": Unit of account X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:51:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A55629E2-A84E-4577-BC3A-3D2130B3CABC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C8E648D5-5B68-434B-ACDD-53EAD3AB2029" --Apple-Mail=_C8E648D5-5B68-434B-ACDD-53EAD3AB2029 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I think we have two very good candidates both substantiated with = arguments for their use in their context: bit - the word for everyday use=20 XBT - the acronym to fit into the ISO currency set. both meaning 100 satoshis or 1e-6 Bitcoin.=20 I am glad that I erred, and this list finaly cares of finance customs = and average Joe=92s. Regards, Tamas Blummer http://bitsofproof.com On 21.04.2014, at 07:41, Pieter Wuille wrote: >=20 > On Apr 21, 2014 3:37 AM, "Un Ix" wrote: > > > > Something tells me this would be reduced to a single syllable in = common usage I.e. bit. >=20 > What units will be called colloquially is not something developers = will determine. It will vary, depend on language and culture, and is not = relevant to this discussion in my opinion. >=20 > It may well be that people in some geographic or language area will = end up (or for a while) calling 1e-06 BTC "bits". That's fine, but using = that as "official" name in software would be very strange and = potentially confusing in my opinion. As mentioned by others, that would = seem to me like calling dollars "bucks" in bank software. Nobody seems = to have a problem with having colloquial names, but "US dollar" or = "euro" are far less ambiguous than "bit". I think we need a more = distinctive name. >=20 > --=20 > Pieter > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform > Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software > Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready > Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform > = http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform___________________________________________= ____ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development --Apple-Mail=_C8E648D5-5B68-434B-ACDD-53EAD3AB2029 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
I think we have two very good candidates = both substantiated with arguments for their use in their = context:

bit  - the word for everyday = use 
XBT - the acronym to = fit into the ISO currency set.

both meaning 100 satoshis or 1e-6 = Bitcoin. 

I am glad that I erred, and this list = finaly cares of finance customs and average Joe=92s.

Regards,

Tamas = Blummer
http://bitsofproof.com

On 21.04.2014, at 07:41, Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com> = wrote:


On Apr 21, 2014 3:37 AM, "Un Ix" <slashdevnull@hotmail.com> = wrote:
>
> Something tells me this would be reduced to a single syllable in = common usage I.e. bit.

What units will be called = colloquially is not something developers will determine. It will vary, = depend on language and culture, and is not relevant to this discussion = in my opinion.

It may well be that people in some = geographic or language area will end up (or for a while) calling 1e-06 = BTC "bits". That's fine, but using that as "official" name in software = would be very strange and potentially confusing in my opinion. As = mentioned by others, that would seem to me like calling dollars "bucks" = in bank software. Nobody seems to have a problem with having colloquial = names, but "US dollar" or "euro" are far less ambiguous than "bit". I = think we need a more distinctive name.

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