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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:47:15 -0400
To: slush <slush@centrum.cz>, Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Tree-chains preliminary summary
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OK, deal. You guys stop calling my concerns FUD, accusing me of having ulterior motives, etc. and I'll pay the same respect to you.


On 25 March 2014 14:13:36 GMT-04:00, slush <slush@centrum.cz> wrote:
>I fully agree, please keep friendly environment on this list. Btw I
>also
>met people who were making fun about Peter's reactions on bitcoin-dev.
>
>slush
>
>
>On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> I would echo the need for some kind of moderation.
>>
>> I believe Peter Todd is an extremely intelligent individual, who has
>a
>> lot to offer the Bitcoin community.  He has a firm grasp of a lot of
>> really deep Bitcoin concepts and his *technical* insight is generally
>> positive.  Technically.  But the way he communicates on this list is
>> *extremely* corrosive and breeds hostility.  It makes it a scary
>place
>> to discuss things, with frequent, public ridicule of everything
>posted.
>>
>> I agree that I would rather have a friendly environment to discuss
>> technicals, even if it means losing additional technical insight.
>> People who would explicitly insult other contributors intelligence
>and
>> character on a public list should be subject to some kind of negative
>> reinforcement.   Maybe there's solutions other than outright banning.
>>
>> -Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/25/2014 01:37 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
>wrote:
>> >> For someone with 'Chief Scientist' as their job title, I'm
>surprised you
>> >> think so little of hard evidence and so much of idol worshipping.
>> > Peter, take this unprofessional, personal crap off-list.
>> >
>> > Mike's anecdote of hostility is not an isolated one.  Just today, a
>> > bitcore developer commented on "Peter Todd's ..apocalyptic vision
>> > and... negative view on bitcoin" which turned off some other
>> > developers from participating more interactively.
>> >
>> > As I commented on IRC, open source projects are no strangers to
>people
>> > who simultaneously (a) make useful contributions and (b) turn
>> > potential contributors away with an abrasive or hostile attitude
>> > toward others.  It's an unsolved problem in OSS, that I saw for 15+
>> > years in the Linux kernel community.
>> >
>> > For this list, as Mike suggested on IRC, introducing an openly
>stated
>> > moderation policy may be the one route.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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