Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YVvcu-0005tz-RS for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 05:25:44 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.171; envelope-from=voisine@gmail.com; helo=mail-we0-f171.google.com; Received: from mail-we0-f171.google.com ([74.125.82.171]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YVvct-0005yo-KN for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 05:25:44 +0000 Received: by wesw62 with SMTP id w62so13903017wes.0 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:25:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.181.9.107 with SMTP id dr11mr39644560wid.40.1426137937517; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.76.193 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:25:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <892666269.4459743.1426137167385.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <892666269.4459743.1426137167385.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:25:37 -0700 Message-ID: From: Aaron Voisine To: Thy Shizzle Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113602ac2aa6750511109d21 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (voisine[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1YVvct-0005yo-KN Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Electrum 2.0 has been tagged X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 05:25:44 -0000 --001a113602ac2aa6750511109d21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Thy Shizzle wrote: > > BIP39 is beautiful. meh... the fact that you can't derive the seed phrase from the wallet seed, and that the password key stretching is so weak as to be ineffectual security theater bugs me. Feels like a pretty big compromise to work on current generation low power embedded devices when the next generation will be more than capable. But I understand the motivation for the compromise. Aaron Voisine co-founder and CEO breadwallet.com --001a113602ac2aa6750511109d21 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Thy Shizzle <thashiznets@yahoo.com.au> wrote= :
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> BIP39 is beautiful.

meh... the fact that you can&#= 39;t derive the seed phrase from the wallet seed, and that the password key= stretching is so weak as to be ineffectual security theater bugs me. Feels= like a pretty big compromise to work on current generation low power embed= ded devices when the next generation will be more than capable. But I under= stand the motivation for the compromise.

Aaron Voisine
co-founder= and CEO
breadwallet.com
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