Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1X85dP-0006OU-PH for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:43:27 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.219.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.43; envelope-from=mh.in.england@gmail.com; helo=mail-oa0-f43.google.com; Received: from mail-oa0-f43.google.com ([209.85.219.43]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1X85dO-0000i8-Ua for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:43:27 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id i7so2890084oag.2 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 03:43:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.233.230 with SMTP id tz6mr5363821obc.53.1405680199808; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 03:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mh.in.england@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.35.234 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 03:43:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:43:19 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hUV9d_aG6uT9oFOZprzG-Codtmk Message-ID: From: Mike Hearn To: slush Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c30012fa3f6f04fe756c9f X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mh.in.england[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1X85dO-0000i8-Ua Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Decentralizing ming X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:43:27 -0000 --001a11c30012fa3f6f04fe756c9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Oops, sorry, I see the subject line changed. This is what I get for working down the thread list top to bottom :) I think the best path forward now is to finish off getblocktemplate support in the various tools so it's possible to pool for payout purposes without giving up control of block creation modulo the coinbase. Combined with the recent sipa performance enhancing goodness, it would hopefully persuade some non-trivial chunk of hashpower to go back to running their own node and start the process of turning pools merely into payout trackers rather than block selectors. On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Mike Hearn wrote: > Jeff, I think the message you're replying to got clipped. > > Satoshi's only comment AFAIK on the topic of GPU mining was to wish for a > gentlemen's agreement to postpone it as long as possible, to help make sure > the distribution of coins was as even as possible. Indeed this predated > pooled mining. > > --001a11c30012fa3f6f04fe756c9f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oops, sorry, I see the subject line changed. This is what = I get for working down the thread list top to bottom :)

= I think the best path forward now is to finish off getblocktemplate support= in the various tools so it's possible to pool for payout purposes with= out giving up control of block creation modulo the coinbase. Combined with = the recent sipa performance enhancing goodness, it would hopefully persuade= some non-trivial chunk of hashpower to go back to running their own node a= nd start the process of turning pools merely into payout trackers rather th= an block selectors.


On Fri,= Jul 18, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote:=
Jeff, I think the message you're replying to got clipp= ed.

Satoshi's only comment AFAIK on the topic of GPU= mining was to wish for a gentlemen's agreement to postpone it as long = as possible, to help make sure the distribution of coins was as even as pos= sible. Indeed this predated pooled mining.


--001a11c30012fa3f6f04fe756c9f--