Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WSwcj-00089m-N4 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:48:41 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gnomon.org.uk designates 93.93.131.22 as permitted sender) client-ip=93.93.131.22; envelope-from=roy@gnomon.org.uk; helo=darla.gnomon.org.uk; Received: from darla.gnomon.org.uk ([93.93.131.22]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1WSwci-0001je-AJ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:48:41 +0000 Received: from darla.gnomon.org.uk (localhost.gnomon.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) by darla.gnomon.org.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s2QMmRYA007079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:48:33 GMT (envelope-from roy@darla.gnomon.org.uk) Received: (from roy@localhost) by darla.gnomon.org.uk (8.14.3/8.14.1/Submit) id s2QMmQlV007078; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:48:26 GMT (envelope-from roy) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:48:26 +0000 From: Roy Badami To: Mike Hearn Message-ID: <20140326224826.GE62995@giles.gnomon.org.uk> References: <20140320215208.GC88006@giles.gnomon.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1WSwci-0001je-AJ Cc: Bitcoin Dev , Andreas Schildbach Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Payment Protocol for Face-to-face Payments X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:48:41 -0000 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:02:44AM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: > > > > It's not unusual, in a face-to-face transaction at a bricks-and-mortar > > establishment, that you know neither the legal name of the entity > > running the establishment > > > I'd hope that people can get certs for their actual business name, but > sometimes it does differ yes. The actual example I was thinking of is that of traditional British pubs. Often a company will own several pubs - however the pubs themselves will typically have individual traditional pub names. The name of the company might not be at all prominently advertised in the pubs. Traders at music festivals are another example that comes to mind (they often accept credit cards if they sell higher value items so why not Bitcoin?) In this example there often are no clearly advertised business names - at least, that the customer will be aware of. roy