Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SZPJz-0003Rd-LF for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 29 May 2012 16:30:59 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.175; envelope-from=rebroad@gmail.com; helo=mail-we0-f175.google.com; Received: from mail-we0-f175.google.com ([74.125.82.175]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1SZPJy-0003rp-Qh for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 29 May 2012 16:30:59 +0000 Received: by werg55 with SMTP id g55so3487843wer.34 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.215.153 with SMTP id e25mr7903016wep.189.1338309052623; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: rebroad@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.77.65 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FC0C401.1040600@justmoon.de> References: <4FC0C401.1040600@justmoon.de> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:30:52 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4TA4joB7-zCRThbrOXXnKJlvX24 Message-ID: From: "Rebroad (sourceforge)" Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77c4cae6ac704c12f5be3 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rebroad[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.2 MISSING_HEADERS Missing To: header 1.2 HTML_OBFUSCATE_10_20 BODY: Message is 10% to 20% HTML obfuscation 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -1.2 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-Headers-End: 1SZPJy-0003rp-Qh Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Punishing empty blocks? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 16:30:59 -0000 --0016e6d77c4cae6ac704c12f5be3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'd like to garner consensus on whether anyone else thinks it desirable to have a flag option for bitcoin to punish blocks for not including transactions. I notice there are already pro-miner options, such as the restricting the relaying of free transactions, and so including an option to restrict relaying of blocks from "stingy" miners to balance against the current bias, so that the default bitcoin client can be run as much pro-miner as pro-non-miner. On Monday, May 28, 2012, rebroad@gmail.com wrote: > What i think this thread reveals is whether a bitcoin client is pro-miner > or pro-non-miner. What i think is needed is a fork where one benefits > miners (e.g. Limits relaying of free transactions, as has been added to the > current default client), and one that benefits non-miners (e.g. Limits > relaying of blocks not including free transactions). Then people can vote > based on the client they use. > > It seems to me that the current main client is a pro-miner one, and > possibly not what most people would vote for if they were given an easier > choice. --0016e6d77c4cae6ac704c12f5be3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to garner consensus on whether anyone else thinks it desirable= to have a flag option for bitcoin to punish blocks for not including trans= actions. I notice there are already pro-miner options, such as the restrict= ing the relaying of free transactions, and so including an option to restri= ct relaying of blocks from "stingy" miners to balance against the= current bias, so that the default bitcoin client can be run as much pro-mi= ner as pro-non-miner.

On Monday, May 28, 2012, rebroad@g= mail.com=A0wrote:
What i think this thread reveals is whether a bitcoin client is pro-miner o= r pro-non-miner. What i think is needed is a fork where one benefits miners= (e.g. Limits relaying of free transactions, as has been added to the curre= nt default client), and one that benefits non-miners (e.g. Limits relaying = of blocks not including free transactions). Then people can vote based on t= he client they use.

It seems to me that the current main client is a pro-miner one, and pos= sibly not what most people would vote for if they were given an easier choi= ce.
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