Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A22632F for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:32:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail149115.authsmtp.co.uk (outmail149115.authsmtp.co.uk [62.13.149.115]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C873F8 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c237.authsmtp.com (mail-c237.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.237]) by punt16.authsmtp.com. (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x6M8WKkj011126; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 09:32:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from user@petertodd.org) Received: from petertodd.org (ec2-52-5-185-120.compute-1.amazonaws.com [52.5.185.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x6M8WIcf060223 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 22 Jul 2019 09:32:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from user@petertodd.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by petertodd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 523414019C; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9B68D2005C; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 04:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 04:32:15 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Andreas Schildbach , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: <20190722083215.toetpsrefpjovgbw@petertodd.org> References: <59fad2b6-9b15-ffec-116e-91d27ce29f80@mattcorallo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="prqutf2kg4cp6edc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-Server-Quench: 38798ba3-ac5b-11e9-b106-8434971169dc X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZIVwkA IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdAAUEkAYAgsB Am8bW11eU197W2M7 bghPaBtcak9QXgdq T0pMXVMcXAMVCXt4 VUgeVBlwdQYIfHt0 ZwhhVndSVBYrdlss EUsGCGwHMG59OmEf Vl1QcwBQeQRLfxlM PgMxNiYHcQ5VPz4z GA41ejw8IwAXAiVJ SQYMKxo5RlwGViI7 DxwDBjwlGUBNbSE0 KBljIFcHEUpZHEQ2 LVY7WFQXexUDaEVS Ek9EHStFT/// X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1024:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 52.5.185.120/25 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:05:51 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core to disable Bloom-based Filtering by default X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:32:31 -0000 --prqutf2kg4cp6edc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 12:56:33AM +0200, Andreas Schildbach via bitcoin-de= v wrote: > An estimated 10+ million wallets depend on that NODE_BLOOM to be > updated. So far, I haven't heard of an alternative, except reading all > transactions and full blocks. Can you specify exactly which wallets those are? Secondly, this doesn't stop people from running NODE_BLOOM nodes, and the D= NS seed infrastructure among others can easily direct wallets to those nodes. = This is of course not very secure, but bloom filters have never been very secure. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --prqutf2kg4cp6edc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEFcyURjhyM68BBPYTJIFAPaXwkfsFAl01dIwACgkQJIFAPaXw kft2/Af/WPxT8GLhECNTDx82ombXrHqs4m13KPsuMzsQkMOa2nDeIxcBLFVado+f nQisFDuUxHS/Ao1EXIIKN+zxDi61ih1pky7sIOwAYmdvSm/e1NeOhyejl4mukzEA HGj7H3Iswb0LohqjgZH6+AKTT7Zf+t4DinpcQoEjy9vluUk0HqE4N4t84m2vlR4E a6sHHFOiYGPO38upSwJGto2ktxMPaSM2D9PIRTcQ2eq5doR1a4xR8KGgtgv53PWS AxJYioYpL1ET1BxxtfCzaXYPKm5tRHlen0zovnrO/HCTcYwL/Dk1Z2vPrfg3F7dG CDQPnsm7rmx+oLBOrcUAChAuwZOo3Q== =jsSQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --prqutf2kg4cp6edc--