Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YvyW7-0003Jl-5l for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 23 May 2015 01:46:23 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.49; envelope-from=benkay@gmail.com; helo=mail-la0-f49.google.com; Received: from mail-la0-f49.google.com ([209.85.215.49]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YvyW3-0007fj-8S for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 23 May 2015 01:46:23 +0000 Received: by labbd9 with SMTP id bd9so22765343lab.2 for ; Fri, 22 May 2015 18:46:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.4.98 with SMTP id j2mr4336630laj.42.1432345572578; Fri, 22 May 2015 18:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.50.15 with HTTP; Fri, 22 May 2015 18:46:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <555EF028.2010302@jonasschnelli.ch> References: <555EF028.2010302@jonasschnelli.ch> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 18:46:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ben Vulpes To: Jonas Schnelli Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0141ab440c9ae60516b5f128 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. 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X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 01:46:23 -0000 --089e0141ab440c9ae60516b5f128 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cannot let http://www.deedbot.org go unmentioned on this thread. On Friday, May 22, 2015, Jonas Schnelli wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > * proof of Bitcoin funds (without revealing public addresses or > > fund location on the blockchain) > > > > * proof of Bitcoin address ownership > > > > * proof of Tweet > > > > * proof of real estate value > > > > * proof of DNS ownership > > > > * proof of existence > > > > * proof of web page contents > > > > * proof of weather conditions > > > > The factoids can be recorded on the blockchain (if you pay for the > > transaction with Bitcoin or PayPal), or they can be part of a free > > attestation chain that we maintain. The website provides a > > permanent URL to the factoids it generates; it also provides an > > X.509 certificate that you can download and keep safe in > > perpetuity, independent of the website. > > > Hi Emin > > This is going into the right direction. Well done! > The certificates (X.509/p12) are far more enduser-friendly than just a > normal PoE hash. > > Your site needs some UX love and i just tried to OR_RETURN a > Email-Address-Verification. But after creating a 0.0001 tx and waiting > for two confirmations it still said that the payment has not yet been > received. There is probably something broken regarding the bitcoin > payment verification. > > The weather and real estate notarization definitively needs a =E2=80=9EUS > only=E2=80=9C badge somewhere. > > Two ideas: > - - Maybe adding a way of decentralize your notary service log via a > opensource p2p daemon (obviously sensitive data should be somehow > encrypted)? > - - Adding a opensource UI app to examine certs (maybe offline capable > with p2p daemon chain as mentioned above). This could prove > independence from your website/service. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVXvAoAAoJECnUvLZBb1PsJpsQAKRYDUTUYA59765w0jbBlK+S > ArxpaxwPmG7ZLhDYoTHJ/welvXsMSzREZrJNKYl7LBHQBPldeTRQHfHwH05qiwBL > H5rC+BTyaglud3x7Bxo0fNrXJB4tkfX2ykPJs+2bqPi9OE0uVlXi2Vh/6cV1U/Uq > RWRfpa19GnSE7IRft5G19FVsG8hrrpuLhzVraAQeZTLyGBKd+hlpjI/qr6TOl8ra > 5K3bFb2J1+UoaFXLlKCSsSx+9PsydlcJFwnr2H/Z7r1M39j5XYag3Ba6W58ats4z > 6DCTL1xRVOCTNDbVgkYzZUDCtv5oDspQ2S0nauJLDVz5ADUaZ+bsmBFwseo+XuZV > TLUxsYfPsqEzUKF2a7ZfMjQG0EUx8oh5DU+o1F5wcBSXDOM+ucdOGYbMrBMV1i9W > GoPUN1QPkqfUTTRiYYnzP2ySyPUoJqZrcwEB7E7nV8O2xE4Q00zCDlOSqU8aVl7j > 9lIs/sTpcK5S0kFfc68n6NVlWYU+CBdGlnmvMdbEkydV2P3ft1+THqQ8LNiYRhWX > 7kHzgG58yUQjvgsOEEb4xTXgA5u4euxBVY+SwKN6cTXA7dWg1s39UEJroaKuXYN5 > iZTj2XkBtD+pwtUPIMs79Kb2/PZRGy7SJui2RbExFX1/8oBbHRV5Ii6+MNw11RNz > RTV0kHof6+6u1BFYHTFX > =3DUmgJ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > --089e0141ab440c9ae60516b5f128 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cannot let=C2=A0http://www.deedbot.org= =C2=A0go unmentioned on this thread.
On Friday, May 22, 2015, Jonas Schnelli <dev@jonasschnelli.ch> wrote:
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> * proof of Bitcoin funds (without revealing public addresses or
> fund location on the blockchain)
>
> * proof of Bitcoin address ownership
>
> * proof of Tweet
>
> * proof of real estate value
>
> * proof of DNS ownership
>
> * proof of existence
>
> * proof of web page contents
>
> * proof of weather conditions
>
> The factoids can be recorded on the blockchain (if you pay for the
> transaction with Bitcoin or PayPal), or they can be part of a free
> attestation chain that we maintain. The website provides a
> permanent URL to the factoids it generates; it also provides an
> X.509 certificate that you can download and keep safe in
> perpetuity, independent of the website.


Hi Emin

This is going into the right direction. Well done!
The certificates (X.509/p12) are far more enduser-friendly than just a
normal PoE hash.

Your site needs some UX love and i just tried to OR_RETURN a
Email-Address-Verification. But after creating a 0.0001 tx and waiting
for two confirmations it still said that the payment has not yet been
received. There is probably something broken regarding the bitcoin
payment verification.

The weather and real estate notarization definitively needs a =E2=80=9EUS only=E2=80=9C badge somewhere.

Two ideas:
- - Maybe adding a way of decentralize your notary service log via a
opensource p2p daemon (obviously sensitive data should be somehow
encrypted)?
- - Adding a opensource UI app to examine certs (maybe offline capable
with p2p daemon chain as mentioned above). This could prove
independence from your website/service.

</jonas>
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