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From: Andy Chase <theandychase@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:52:06 -0700
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To: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr.org>, bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP/Draft] BIP Acceptance Process
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> Any such a BIP like this needs to
> document the natural forces involved in real-world acceptance, not try to
lay
> down "rules" that people are expected to follow.

That's my goal: to take the hodgepodge of we already use for acceptance,
and apply rules that allow true acceptance to be identified in a clearer
way.

If people don't follow the "rules" then the system simply won't work, this
is mentioned in the last section.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr.org> wrote:

> On Friday, September 04, 2015 12:30:50 AM Andy Chase via bitcoin-dev wrot=
e:
> > Here's a BIP. I wrote the BIP mostly to stir the pot on ideas of
> > governance, but I=E2=80=99m moderately serious about it.
>
> Sigh. There is *no governance at all*. Any such a BIP like this needs to
> document the natural forces involved in real-world acceptance, not try to
> lay
> down "rules" that people are expected to follow.
>
> For hardforks, that means economic consensus. For softforks, miner
> majority.
> For basically anything else, real-world implementation and use (by any
> significant quantity of people).
>
> Luke
>

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his is mentioned in the last section.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Luke Dashjr <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:luke@dashjr.org" target=3D"_blank">luke@=
dashjr.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On=
 Friday, September 04, 2015 12:30:50 AM Andy Chase via bitcoin-dev wrote:<b=
r>
&gt; Here&#39;s a BIP. I wrote the BIP mostly to stir the pot on ideas of<b=
r>
&gt; governance, but I=E2=80=99m moderately serious about it.<br>
<br>
</span>Sigh. There is *no governance at all*. Any such a BIP like this need=
s to<br>
document the natural forces involved in real-world acceptance, not try to l=
ay<br>
down &quot;rules&quot; that people are expected to follow.<br>
<br>
For hardforks, that means economic consensus. For softforks, miner majority=
.<br>
For basically anything else, real-world implementation and use (by any<br>
significant quantity of people).<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Luke<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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