Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5108188B for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:10:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from pmx.vmail.no (pmx.vmail.no [193.75.16.11]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1816EE for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pmx.vmail.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pmx.isp.as2116.net) with SMTP id 8038A44307 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:10:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.bluecom.no (smtp.bluecom.no [193.75.75.28]) by pmx.vmail.no (pmx.isp.as2116.net) with ESMTP id B16734481F for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:10:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.localnet (unknown [81.191.183.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.bluecom.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9818FAA for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:10:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Zander To: Bitcoin Dev Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:10:45 +0200 Message-ID: <3295391.2gkoFVhbEs@pluto> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.1 (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64; KDE/4.14.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Fees and the block-finding process X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:10:50 -0000 On Tuesday 11. August 2015 21.51.59 Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev wrote: > If people are doing transactions despite being unreliable, there > must be a use for them. Thats one usage of the form unreliable. Yes, if people start getting their transactions thrown out because of full blocks or full memory pools, then its unreliable to send stuff. Much more importantly is the software is unreliable at such loads. Bitcoin core will continue to grow in memory consumption, and eventually crash. Or, worse, crash the system its running on. We know of some issues in the software with regards to running at > 100% capacity, I'm sure we'll find more when it actually happens. IT experts are serious when they say that they avoid maxing out a system like the plague. This, btw, is a good scenario where more centralization ends up happening when blocks are always full and people need to upgrade their client every week to keep up with the bugfixes.