Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WOSk6-0003sA-Rt for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:05:46 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.3 as permitted sender) client-ip=80.91.229.3; envelope-from=gcbd-bitcoin-development@m.gmane.org; helo=plane.gmane.org; Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1WOSk4-0005fT-Uh for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:05:46 +0000 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WOSjx-0007Yw-Cl for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:05:37 +0100 Received: from f052017201.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.52.17.201]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:05:37 +0100 Received: from andreas by f052017201.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:05:37 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net From: Andreas Schildbach Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:05:25 +0100 Message-ID: References: <52852C2D.9020103@gmail.com> <52853D8A.6010501@monetize.io> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: f052017201.adsl.alicedsl.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.91.229.3 listed in list.dnswl.org] -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.1 DKIM_ADSP_ALL No valid author signature, domain signs all mail -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1WOSk4-0005fT-Uh Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:05:47 -0000 btw. None of Bitcoin Wallet's users complained about confusion because of the mBTC switch. In contrast, I get many mails and questions if exchange rates happen to differ by >10%. I suspect nobody looks at the Bitcoin price. It's the amount in local currency that matters to the users. On 03/13/2014 02:40 PM, Andreas Schildbach wrote: > Indeed. And users were crying for mBTC. Nobody was asking for µBTC. > > I must admit I was not aware if this thread. I just watched other > wallets and at some point decided its time to switch to mBTC. > > > On 03/13/2014 02:31 PM, Mike Hearn wrote: >> The standard has become mBTC and that's what was adopted. It's too late >> to try and sway this on a mailing list thread now. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary Rowe > > wrote: >> >> The MultiBit HD view is that this is a locale-sensitive presentation >> issue. As a result we offer a simple configuration panel giving >> pretty much every possible combination: icon, m+icon, μ+icon, BTC, >> mBTC, μBTC, XBT, mXBT, μXBT, sat along with settings for >> leading/trailing symbol, commas, spaces and points. This allows >> anyone to customise to meet their own needs beyond the offered default. >> >> We apply the NIST guidelines for representation of SI unit symbols >> (i.e no conversion to native language, no RTL giving icon+m etc). >> >> Right now MultiBit HD is configured to use m+icon taken from the >> Font Awesome icon set. However reading earlier posts it seems >> that μ+icon is more sensible. >> >> Let us know what you'd like. >> >> Links: >> m+icon screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/WCDoG >> Font Awesome icon: http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/btc/ >> NIST SI guidelines: http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec07.html >> >> >> On 13 March 2014 12:56, Jeff Garzik > > wrote: >> >> Resurrecting this topic. Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC several weeks >> ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was >> uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in >> additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place >> transition. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Wendell > > wrote: >> > We're with uBTC too. Been waiting for the signal to do this, >> let's do it right after the fee system is improved. >> > >> > -wendell >> > >> > grabhive.com | twitter.com/hivewallet >> | gpg: 6C0C9411 >> > >> > On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote: >> > >> >> Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems >> handle numbers to >> >> the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars, Yen). The >> opposite is >> >> untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+ decimal places). >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Garzik >> Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist >> BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book >> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases >> and their >> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, >> this first edition is now available. 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