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[172.104.61.193]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s6-20020a17090aad8600b002adb0695325si40136pjq.1.2024.04.23.15.16.07 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of aj@erisian.com.au designates 172.104.61.193 as permitted sender) client-ip=172.104.61.193; Received: from aj@azure.erisian.com.au by cerulean.erisian.com.au with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rzOQj-0003rW-9w; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:16:03 +1000 Received: by email (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:15:56 +1000 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:15:56 +1000 From: Anthony Towns To: Ava Chow Cc: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <070755a0-10e9-4903-9524-dd8ef98c1c8b@achow101.com> X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Original-Sender: aj@erisian.com.au X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aj@erisian.com.au designates 172.104.61.193 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aj@erisian.com.au Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 07:14:34PM +0000, 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List wrote: > Since we're now past the deadline of April 19th, I'd like to inform > everyone of what will happen on Monday. > > There has not been any actual objections to the nominees nor have there > been any suggestions on choosing a subset of them since my last email. > As such, there is rough consensus on adding Kanzure, Murch, Jonatack, > Ruben, and Roasbeef as BIP editors, and they will be added on Monday > April 22nd. Thanks for pushing this forward, Ava! One thing though: > There has not been any actual objections to the nominees nor have there When choosing personnel, asking for public objections is probably a pretty bad approach. It's hurtful to the person being objected to, both when the objections are accurate and when they aren't, and, especially if the objections end up being ignored, it's harmful to the working environment when the person who objected has to work with the person they objected to in future. Personally, I'd suggest focussing more on "are they demonstrably doing useful work? yes, then they keep or increase their perms; no, then decrease their perms". (Probably couldn't have done anything different this time around, but maybe something to keep in mind for the future) Along those lines, it might be worth having a review in six months or so to see which of the editors and processes have been effective, and which ones haven't, and see if there's anything worth changing further to increase the wins and diminish the losses. Could be worth making something like that a regular thing (once a year?); for the Debian Technical Committee, we had somewhat similar problems with inactivity and a lack of renewal, which (IMO) was fixed in a big part just by having a policy of saying "okay, longest serving member gets booted, remaining folks should invite someone new" once a year. Anyway, it's easy to quibble about what the best process might be, but actual results are more important, so thanks again Ava! Cheers, aj -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. 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