Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <tamas@bitsofproof.com>) id 1WXF5l-0003qp-Tb for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 19:20:25 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from wp059.webpack.hosteurope.de ([80.237.132.66]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1WXF5k-0000Kz-Ne for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 19:20:25 +0000 Received: from [37.143.74.116] (helo=[192.168.0.102]); authenticated by wp059.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1WXF5d-0003n0-TN; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 21:20:17 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CEC09327-D31B-4481-9E0D-F14E6E89BB3C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Tamas Blummer <tamas@bitsofproof.com> In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgT_9tXCxOHX_sN0wa=GRMn5seu3-o1UdiLjvbivFr46_w@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 21:20:31 +0200 Message-Id: <8222EAFD-813E-4046-A751-FD3D04FF6764@bitsofproof.com> References: <CANEZrP2rgiQHpekEpFviJ22QsiV+s-F2pqosaZOA5WrRtJx5pg@mail.gmail.com> <5342C833.5030906@gmail.com> <CAAS2fgTqBfEPXh2dfcL_ke6c0wfXw4qUM1rAYMkAHcAM6mYH+g@mail.gmail.com> <6D430188-CE00-44B1-BD8C-B623CF04D466@icloudtools.net> <CANEZrP1-9LpPw4WuY8bfsEG0OLoDECXTfQCoZsZ4tmOn2H7Omw@mail.gmail.com> <6D6E55CE-2F04-4C34-BEE6-98AEF1478346@bitsofproof.com> <CAAS2fgQaJ6P4Aj2A5Zox+CiGQK6jHvF1CkLH1R6xbadYhUXO2g@mail.gmail.com> <8A6DEBA4-EA59-4BAE-95CF-C964C2DBB84B@bitsofproof.com> <CAAS2fgT_9tXCxOHX_sN0wa=GRMn5seu3-o1UdiLjvbivFr46_w@mail.gmail.com> To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de; tamas@bitsofproof.com; 1396898424; c43d0f4f; X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1WXF5k-0000Kz-Ne Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 19:20:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_CEC09327-D31B-4481-9E0D-F14E6E89BB3C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F359F0A6-B508-4ECE-97B9-12209E93EB26" --Apple-Mail=_F359F0A6-B508-4ECE-97B9-12209E93EB26 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Once headers are loaded first there is no reason for sequential loading.=20= Validation has to be sequantial, but that step can be deferred until the = blocks before a point are loaded and continous. Tamas Blummer http://bitsofproof.com On 07.04.2014, at 21:03, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Tamas Blummer <tamas@bitsofproof.com> = wrote: >> therefore I guess it is more handy to return some bitmap of = pruned/full >> blocks than ranges. >=20 > A bitmap also means high overhead and=97 if it's used to advertise > non-contiguous blocks=97 poor locality, since blocks are fetched > sequentially. >=20 --Apple-Mail=_F359F0A6-B508-4ECE-97B9-12209E93EB26 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: = after-white-space;"><div><br></div><div>Once headers are loaded first = there is no reason for sequential = loading. </div><div><br></div><div>Validation has to be sequantial, = but that step can be deferred until the blocks before a point are loaded = and continous.</div><br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true"><span = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; orphans: 2; widows: = 2; float: none; display: inline !important;">Tamas Blummer</span><span = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; orphans: 2; widows: = 2;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: = -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; orphans: 2; = widows: 2; float: none; display: inline !important;"><a = href=3D"http://bitsofproof.com">http://bitsofproof.com</a></span> </span></div> <br><div><div>On 07.04.2014, at 21:03, Gregory Maxwell <<a = href=3D"mailto:gmaxwell@gmail.com">gmaxwell@gmail.com</a>> = wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Tamas Blummer <<a = href=3D"mailto:tamas@bitsofproof.com">tamas@bitsofproof.com</a>> = wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">therefore I guess it is more handy = to return some bitmap of pruned/full<br>blocks than = ranges.<br></blockquote><br>A bitmap also means high overhead and=97 if = it's used to advertise<br>non-contiguous blocks=97 poor locality, since = blocks are = fetched<br>sequentially.<br><br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_F359F0A6-B508-4ECE-97B9-12209E93EB26-- --Apple-Mail=_CEC09327-D31B-4481-9E0D-F14E6E89BB3C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTQvp/AAoJEPZykcUXcTkc4y0IAI+fADy2oeQMElhXdRSiV2Cc 0Fcyhue5Ppi46XSUiDGyMceE4PyndgHm3qnd4Bf/S6a1fKfw6y0CsR2kwt1Ay4CQ yAoZfKvQmLZIykW4UbNMaEgNzQvWDPFwZ0m8tIWdn7QycmcpPZJ0rLCOKl8Kl+hX GOBwLYF06v2fLUOe/tf9r+ifV73k/iRZUppv3jUgxJgC3gtqXf1sLuMP6X7qB1j0 xDTBuS1ssIegw9LPHnywnriXk7tJOkLLc4trSkuiVuj1IqQJ5htNwEEJHTslKqhX PuITRBKYwm6Ldlimxvqsz0J0jJCcqxksG3PXuf4B0Sw/5VwQSfDRSKYZcRg32wA= =GIi7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_CEC09327-D31B-4481-9E0D-F14E6E89BB3C--