Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071E8C000E for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25BA405C9 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:48:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp2.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=tutanota.de Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Is1UVXUz3CjZ for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:48:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from w1.tutanota.de (w1.tutanota.de [81.3.6.162]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBA71400D4 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD62FBF57A for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:48:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1627066111; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:Sender; bh=UPLBSTXUy9cRF01aOPabCnn9hVJmU+x35TtEyHfAyFk=; b=aCpsQd77v8WdcKxb6nY8ptAo6W47fIdqZfkS2JKKQybGVMwnmNOe/BWEwB/CVXQh ZPmD+EJLQTjg24JjI9OXXqRPhO/Jz5eZDhiMOKhm9TuLopQnRxeJA17aAZDVimdDR9w 6HfcjrGaGvOpYJoHcp4AdrSuHuSCVY21V2HVcL95eTkscKj5Ihtj/3t5zF8e7VMYIIo csIunU+sAZSo+1thvZT4Gv8M3twJLjCC+fskNC04+PjQt8GKOg8vtslOUFWnyYMBXAT SorGIuQAUM/ySdwBjGYco3QmmDk1kkrk2QXKOpAkkVa2p3AnHFS48t4g8FKvzx/n115 NOwxvVEmMA== Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:48:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Prayank To: Bitcoin Dev Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21696_738767297.1627066111965" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 22:06:44 +0000 Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Privacy Week/Month X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:48:38 -0000 ------=_Part_21696_738767297.1627066111965 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello World, What? I would love if Bitcoin developers would celebrate a 'Bitcoin Privacy week = or month' once in an year. Not sure about the dates. Enthusiasm can be simi= lar to Valentines week or Secret Santa week but Seriousness should be like = Wikileaks or Human Rights Foundation. Why? I am not sure if we need reasons, charts, etc. to discuss privacy and make = all users aware of things involved. People consider privacy issues as somet= hing that can be ignored, for me they are same as security issues and very = important in network like Bitcoin. Most of the people may still ignore it c= onsidering the feedback on few issues related to privacy in past. Although = we can still try and its a new day. Not giving up is what makes the differe= nce in the end. Also I would like to clarify, there are lot of positives and people that ha= ve contributed a lot to improve privacy in Bitcoin but they will never get = similar appreciation as compared to few others because of different reasons= which I don't want to discuss here and one of them is decentralization.=C2= =A0 Don't want to mention names but there have been influencers in past who= are followed by lot of people for their thoughts on privacy but a normal B= itcoin Core Contributor with less than 1000 followers and lot of work that = improved privacy in Bitcoin is ignored. This is a speech from an Indian web series which only people who know Hindi= would understand:=C2=A0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DztBfQU41s-o TL;DR:=C2=A0 This guy was not allowed to talk about his product He still argued that he cannot talk about the product but still talk about = something in 5 minutes. He says nobody cares about "What", they are interested in "Why" He is scared and feels like a contestant in reality show in which he can't = even perform. Most important thing: Never give up Mentors, Angel Investors etc. are external things that you don't control, w= hat you can do is prove things with your work. He couldn't sell his product so he sold himself. I will keep trying to improve privacy or talk about it when I cannot code i= n few things. Request other developers to help. How? Share 1 issue from repository of any Bitcoin project related to privacy and= your thoughts. Share 1 pull request Share anything else that you think may help improve things related to priva= cy Mailing list or Twitter or something else? I am not sure. Is this off topic? If yes, apologize and maybe request same people on other= channels.=C2=A0 --=20 Prayank A3B1 E430 2298 178F ------=_Part_21696_738767297.1627066111965 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello World,

Wh= at?

I would love if = Bitcoin developers would celebrate a 'Bitcoin Privacy week or month' once i= n an year. Not sure about the dates. Enthusiasm can be similar to Valentine= s week or Secret Santa week but Seriousness should be like Wikileaks or Hum= an Rights Foundation.

Why?

I am not sure= if we need reasons, charts, etc. to discuss privacy and make all users awa= re of things involved. People consider privacy issues as something that can= be ignored, for me they are same as security issues and very important in = network like Bitcoin. Most of the people may still ignore it considering th= e feedback on few issues related to privacy in past. Although we can still = try and its a new day. Not giving up is what makes the difference in the en= d.

Also I would like= to clarify, there are lot of positives and people that have contributed a = lot to improve privacy in Bitcoin but they will never get similar appreciat= ion as compared to few others because of different reasons which I don't wa= nt to discuss here and one of them is decentralization.  Don't want to= mention names but there have been influencers in past who are followed by = lot of people for their thoughts on privacy but a normal Bitcoin Core Contr= ibutor with less than 1000 followers and lot of work that improved privacy = in Bitcoin is ignored.

This is a speech from an Indian web series which only people who know Hi= ndi would understand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DztBfQU41s-o

TL;DR: 
  1. This guy was not allowed to talk about his product
  2. He still argued that he cannot talk about the product but still = talk about something in 5 minutes.
  3. He says nobody = cares about "What", they are interested in "Why"
  4. H= e is scared and feels like a contestant in reality show in which he can't e= ven perform.
  5. Most important thing: Never give up
  6. Mentors, Angel Investors etc. are external things t= hat you don't control, what you can do is prove things with your work.
    <= /li>
  7. He couldn't sell his product so he sold himself.
I will keep trying to improve privacy or talk abo= ut it when I cannot code in few things. Request other developers to help.

How?

  1. Share 1 issue from repository of any = Bitcoin project related to privacy and your thoughts.
  2. Share 1 pull request
  3. Share anything else that = you think may help improve things related to privacy
Mailing list or Twitter or something else? I am not sure.

Is this off topic? If yes, = apologize and maybe request same people on other channels. 
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