Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72C05A85 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:57:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-qt0-f170.google.com (mail-qt0-f170.google.com [209.85.216.170]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 196531ED for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-f170.google.com with SMTP id b40so5720817qtb.2 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:57:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=06Sb1oa5JCQ/cU3SAvy5uVKFqLQ0awyKdPA+89Dt3Gg=; b=sho/F2XJeV8HagHWGYvEXR8fKHjU47YcDQ5hmmQLr7gaYhKVFIxSwJf8MjWqfkvaum vGG4uKQ3epOIrP2/zXdN+zFNQxmOaRHBAl4u2Iqhsbef2iT4NSzV0b1hmvJxHAz/Gvh+ 58BrX9BJOJZo7q3biYffCeS/Sj5ruBagN5ZD7bxOv1y6jGBO5Kn/v/76Vi9Ixd0npByi yMuVeRUqt304gxhOi6g4K3hnt3bmqaoKGQduLPUDxjLXF6zRR+h8Cyg/w/Mh3vbWlvEg Ro7lsFnhs0ybPdQgomWmTV890Ta4mSktTGeuYDgbf16BruhtpMQbAbdkOwI1EQg9of8b y2fw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=06Sb1oa5JCQ/cU3SAvy5uVKFqLQ0awyKdPA+89Dt3Gg=; b=Tme2nlLTcA/pt/eQqIQgxGyih0amJyt0dURYI6QIiDhiZpMPAzsGnX34PR/WCD+Aye ldJ3DcZ7YcOeBm3shuwmbiSjDgF4IpakzHXmJ9rBu60Mr+Num2Z+/4ePjAbjTUXyKV9T H6dR2G8hhoMZYZ81ynTwJyebcgXlMQ1+Hd2avXzAOJ5JnLHiyDszwz9BwUYJUP1m6WA2 eZn/ofXOjlbEPI2LZ9Sj1iWkoOXvr1JH+dskiSSe1YTOYboGp7eatOo+IdF4el4svlkm i2VcU53gvmD081wqXvhjyB8mJSfZWiIAX7KK++igbeXlRxoqSZ/enVyrh+8gtR5oD8NY xOrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw112EIP4yV9LHtmdhg+wIiiJ2G1SCNow62Py23OJdaT9q1ttQpHvh jztuemyNOm65Lw== X-Received: by 10.200.54.38 with SMTP id m35mr2895902qtb.220.1499813830328; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (ool-45726efb.dyn.optonline.net. [69.114.110.251]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y17sm542420qtb.37.2017.07.11.15.57.08 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:57:09 -0700 (PDT) To: Tao Effect , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion References: <0119661e-a11a-6d4b-c9ec-fd510bd4f144@gmail.com> <1c1d06a9-2e9f-5b2d-42b7-d908ada4b09e@gmail.com> From: Paul Sztorc Message-ID: <08078429-089f-9315-2f76-a08121c5378c@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:57:12 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 23:02:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Updating the Scaling Roadmap X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:57:11 -0000 On 7/11/2017 6:41 PM, Tao Effect wrote: > Dear Paul, > > Drivechain has several issues that you've acknowledged but have not, > IMO, adequately (at all really) addressed [1]. I replied to your email at length, at [2]. You should read that email, and then reply to it with your outstanding objections, if you still have them (per the usual customs of a mailing list). [2] https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-June/014609.= html > Adopting DC would be an irreversible course of action, This is false -- it is easily reversible with a second soft fork. Also, I would say to everyone that, (in my opinion as the OP) this conversation will go off-topic if it veers exclusively into 'drivechain review'. Paul