Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61B2F982 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:31:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-vk0-f50.google.com (mail-vk0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 330F111A for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 2so175185344vkb.3 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 06:31:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jtimon-cc.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pHapxHZPyRkY8WQSLqV7Fo1jgv0qE/a9b9hGtZaKL9U=; b=dLHnMt9Bc7hIe3qizvDFRyU8YuoSTc/ngxUr43pCtT604MHm7DhevmrWw/v5bDYgzm thPLIhrhPD0TBvJVcI/sdLtQWTQNZTqN+w2EM5APRDxF7oL8+kczdTb0LXT2+Ey0yRID 8pgggzGPks8yiHdtXc9RNlg0tSs86UIkzKep+ofx/Dd+ZzsEWwwX7MdPU1LBvEDbnF3r ekx3DbzQg5i7l3U+Ual15x2Z8034UcpUSJeMqF0ZIhilYrle+yBBjxFoxDDX/B9uUyGR DMI35CiZY1QvAFu8zOy9ziZSjMmLw+3d4idW9PmZrilqRuBlwJ6YiXeuJNeG+mPLBMK3 r5pQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=pHapxHZPyRkY8WQSLqV7Fo1jgv0qE/a9b9hGtZaKL9U=; b=U+PmfRciNFVBth9RCfcquYQOQl4CU6nmDE8i6RMUHp3eDwmAnsiqZ+AZvAcU+DXaLN Ymxl3a6MkHaT/vQzY9JQ1A7a/t4AtR2HgzNlPJk3x7pRe9eIGd2nUFKIeECxwqnEiRLy +neEmQLVQUbiQrwHBzxu+zqH0PZfolD+r+3wtmXRB7cyfJro1PZfcctfFJpB6QMqsxyH qPKlqdQGPc0hL0z3m52CLtSJhtw1NIydSgSCqUqB4WcU3+spkiF4He2Z4M/rYK4fDi2m WDtGiaqIw/FTQ/Hiy1tKqbOYlPqkr7uUFVFsW6hAafSMViw9AcsE4G8FI7gdifgOqS9q R+zw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RlN2C8N4ZBxa0Y8CeOUnvhcfm4k5paPYDcB4AOJVYrK7QzkuSIXt0S4SvFxSiWvYox2I6IMj/JGtGQYnw== X-Received: by 10.31.254.201 with SMTP id l192mr17221675vki.36.1476711068270; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 06:31:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.31.15 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 06:31:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2381760.VTJ5BOIlGi@strawberry> References: <7939356.11nSWPlGYM@strawberry> <22046ac7-df36-2e2a-759e-b3dd01601c59@gmail.com> <2381760.VTJ5BOIlGi@strawberry> From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 15:31:07 +0200 Message-ID: To: Tom Zander , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Start time for BIP141 (segwit) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:31:10 -0000 On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev wrote: > You are asking people to create everyone-can-spend transactions that would > mean a loss of funds to everyone that used it if we do find a major flaw and > need to rollback. Please, nobody is asking for this. Nobody should produce segwit transactions until the softfork is activated, after which those transactions aren't anyone-can-spend anymore. After activation, nobody can be forced to use the new format immediately (or ever) if they don't want to reduce their tx fees. Maybe because they want to be additionally cautious or maybe because they haven't implemented the new features yet. Either way, it is fine that some people upgrade later since, as repeated by many, this is a backward compatible change.