Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1VhGw7-0007Ig-Me for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:47:39 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.148.113 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.148.113; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail148113.authsmtp.com; Received: from outmail148113.authsmtp.com ([62.13.148.113]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1VhGw6-0003ZQ-Q9 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:47:39 +0000 Received: from mail-c237.authsmtp.com (mail-c237.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.237]) by punt10.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id rAFAl0sI004547; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:47:00 GMT Received: from savin (76-10-178-109.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.178.109]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id rAFAksJS018221 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:46:57 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:46:54 -0500 From: Peter Todd To: Michael Gronager Message-ID: <20131115104654.GC17034@savin> References: <528367F5.9080303@ceptacle.com> <528371BF.9030100@ceptacle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <528371BF.9030100@ceptacle.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Server-Quench: 4072359b-4de3-11e3-94fa-002590a135d3 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdwcUFloCAgsB AmUbWlReVFt7XGs7 bAxPbAVDY01GQQRq WVdMSlVNFUsqcGpw XV1kMRlzfwdEeTB2 YEVjEHRbW0Z5cE8v X0oAQG4bZGY1a30W VBYJagNUcgZDfk5E aVUrVz1vNG8XDQg5 AwQ0PjZ0MThBJSBS WgQAK04nCWsVEzh0 XBEHBTEiBwUARiMy KgEjYlAREQ4aO0E5 LF8oRVMfNX1aBApE GlxJCX0RKRFXDyAs EAVGTAwQFydedj1V HhBvKwFFGDVdVx1S AExOSAoOGS4t X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1024:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 76.10.178.109/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: petertodd.org] X-Headers-End: 1VhGw6-0003ZQ-Q9 Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Even simpler minimum fee calculation formula: f > bounty*fork_rate/average_blocksize X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:47:39 -0000 --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 01:34:07PM +0100, Michael Gronager wrote: > Just a quick comment on the actual fees (checked at blockchain.info) the > average fee over the last 90 days is actually ~0.0003BTC/txn - so not > too far behind the theoretical minimum of 0.00037BTC/txn. How did you get those numbers exactly? Also fee per txn is *not* useful and we really shouldn't quote it so that newbies reading this stuff get the right understanding. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 00000000000000075ed91531e07d2045b5823da050fe373bde7bb363965e44ae --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQGrBAEBCACVBQJShfueXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDc1ZWQ5MTUzMWUwN2QyMDQ1YjU4MjNkYTA1MGZlMzczYmRl N2JiMzYzOTY1ZTQ0YWUvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQJIFAPaXwkfsyxQf/eBb+fhvPCnmbBC9N91QtbqjF 9hYZZIiTaD/LGXCULXWdEs+vpALqO7nIY37HdjdxwBdKlOUVVvJXR3yIAJl8x2DG 7/bq6vRgM2QIYes9iOYU7JHFZO1WWUrAN5wMJMRcwlmWfvUo90XYWg2h4x9J0Q8T saVgZQSktxMvVHPQoENFkBzFgRVlGBAJ0XxnqyUiks/m1ez9lxOdNO7iHSP4xSGW n58yydmJVF1Gz0vsLYKfgsbUFM9DyC6DTGZ3PaEFjHCB/ClageqHw0JrMOogQHKO FAdg//T104MUfCJgW/R2oqxaT5UsV8oPos4sq36/zSi+XeCR6B0bnIjamxmuOg== =jH6L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt--