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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [198.252.153.129 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines 0.2 AWL AWL: Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address X-Headers-End: 1Z4QS6-0003hy-0b Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: Move Bitcoin Dev List to a Neutral Competent Entity X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:13:11 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What about Gittorrent? http://blog.printf.net/articles/2015/05/29/announcing-gittorrent-a-decen tralized-github/ On 06/14/2015 08:19 PM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:15 AM, Jeff Garzik > wrote: > > * ACK on moving away from SourceForge mailing lists - though only > once a community-welcomed replacement is up and running > > * ACK on using LF as a mailing infrastructure provider > > * Research secure mailing list models, for bitcoin-security. The > list is not ultra high security - we all use PGP for that - but it > would perhaps be nice to find some spiffy cryptosystem where > mailing list participants individually hold keys & therefore > access. > > > While I agree this is a good idea, this should not be a > precondition for moving the public bitcoin-dev list. The security > team needs to separately research/write tools needed for this. > > warren, wanna just go ahead and create > bitcoin-development @ LF? > > > *More Feedback?* As for going ahead, perhaps we should wait to > hear from more of the other technical leaders? > > *_More Questions_* > > *List Name?* Would people prefer "bitcoin-development" for he new > list name instead of a shorter name like "bitcoin-dev"? I > personally like the shorter name, but either is fine. > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo currently has > "sidechains-dev", and "lightning-dev" is moving there sometime > soon. > > *Proposed Cut-Off Date?* Then we also need to agree on a date to > cut off the old list. Their sysadmin said we could have the new > list auto-post from the old list for a short while. I wonder how > well that works ... if that will result in double posting if people > write to the new and CC the old list. Needs a little research how > well it would behave to have both lists operating during a > transition period. I think we should announce a cut-off date when > posts to the old list is shut off, July 15th, one month from now. > Thoughts? > > *Moderators?* Mailman on the new server allows having separate > logins for admins and moderators. I think the admins of the old SF > project are gavin, jgarzik and sipa... they are kind of busy. > Perhaps we should identify known trusted community members who can > help with moderation. Usually this is dealing with "held" messages > that are flagged by the spam filter > > Warren Togami > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------- > > > > > _______________________________________________ Bitcoin-development > mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > - -- http://abis.io ~ "a protocol concept to enable decentralization and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good" https://keybase.io/odinn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVfpcfAAoJEGxwq/inSG8CEdsH+weboFo8SCbwgoe68oZLl6Et r4JtzZRu8jtw5x6AYcpVMBvUo3CHtbYCWREidBhvSU+TlOUjnxZRU5CjLpjHcc61 QV2hIGD1RUdrcj93PBsnNrvuXkLVHd09sKXCIvldY1d1GqTqy9sVY1skExd7zY2h LmJhLdmNw7I+gLP/r8Ivl7aDqrpzHXr7pnbFXZZ0hxhthncxXTefi/IV+kAt3ptL qfSRYGPyyUXWLfXF/XW+/DH+scZm+Iu/SSoSa6xnEo4MgY4HzZM2Uy+9Te9aO6wd xvdpMetZV5A9Ljr8Ww72DPDkvUprk7u55OMgZZ4Fps53PnqwpNOjt3phIUH4iVE= =6Fxw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----