Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org (smtp1.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::138]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746FBC002B for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2023 14:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC2D813B6 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2023 14:11:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp1.osuosl.org 3BC2D813B6 Authentication-Results: smtp1.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20210112 header.b=gQdaqBVU X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m57ExnoYu7I7 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2023 14:11:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp1.osuosl.org 759EE813B8 Received: from mail-yw1-x112c.google.com (mail-yw1-x112c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::112c]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 759EE813B8 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2023 14:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw1-x112c.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-527979e8670so16707467b3.10 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 06:11:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=RNNHz1Poz/o84m3Bfz+h2Hsf+Oav0nvJoa9Vy8b4kDU=; b=gQdaqBVUEWl97n5Nwo3qE84x7KqjuyxgxVCDMl07vVWBZlKkfWT8R56wxC1R+qqhrF LzJ0y/bU3y8aKkkiWB3K641JyngV8K2SSCbr2uyNuDdPBZEiXs/R5MJzYPThryrS5nbs sfsnib/4VnrPmJLnMmQygIsCCz6q213rhLW52qntj+OcXpQKIgiDAwKqikkGL/johtbb pDourAVYNYZlij9Kb5cYzGS5haswpO5O9D5o9OP/aKP8fliXYyZ+1/XjM0uzXs2zaML9 wJI4ulPA35ImEsz76D3n3AXi0w50Ml5oeY6lkwoBai1pndpdCFXbkvNcD3fulLEG8rIL L/9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=RNNHz1Poz/o84m3Bfz+h2Hsf+Oav0nvJoa9Vy8b4kDU=; b=zjVx+2OQWjbs0VreDmqVvmxlKMZeS7RwlmG82tbWoCIgRLNsvFgCfxfdEpDXpZhjnL 8plaJD30HHN9IlRhHuU8ZjeOIcwdHGuo8kbZcQK+MY1Z03enmMhkFvAwPx/q6cblPw02 wfkxEsxnmsRKZpMXvGMEAdbEIrkYB7EdqwxfCSYml/n+O3E7W0baR+BrFedbIRtVAUWJ bSYI+sS8smTQvIMItH8RQ4JQEtmIpcU0mXG9sQm0C9BI4Ee8BdTtr+4f3LCPX5S8Di/M Mn4J4mU7mTscyf7DwO9aR2NZ0MKVT3R6rEW22Y9jXK4ryllpuXshWzbmZ3tQHjikW+b7 pq+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKVd+DRTj8l4aaXnRTv/Vom7qEnLj/2ia3ZNhTbEnPaZT5tTsPcG ftD8eaX5Stoca7lmUGHkVS67aqJInwLdqyJI+kwFMuvb X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/itad+9OrKDDcch0Xu0enO3ZVysi7vpGjde8URYeRgIWzfnGkTSc6Q7W+essRezeIqqvHTv7qaRBbeFLG7qD4= X-Received: by 2002:a81:6541:0:b0:4d7:eb11:6bf7 with SMTP id z62-20020a816541000000b004d7eb116bf7mr1378436ywb.235.1675519905266; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 06:11:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <57f780b1-f262-9394-036c-70084320e9cf@peersm.com> In-Reply-To: From: Kostas Karasavvas Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2023 16:11:33 +0200 Message-ID: To: Christopher Allen , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c4812c05f3e0606d" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 04 Feb 2023 15:46:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Debate: 64 bytes in OP_RETURN VS taproot OP_FALSE OP_IF OP_PUSH X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2023 14:11:47 -0000 --000000000000c4812c05f3e0606d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 10:17 PM Christopher Allen via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:52 AM Aymeric Vitte via bitcoin-dev < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >> I think the right way so people don't invent deviant things is to >> increase the size of OP_RETURN, I don't get this number of 80B, you can >> hardly store a signature (of what?) in there and not the "what" if the >> "what" is a hash for example >> > > Updating the size of OP_RETURN to support a hash (or two), a signature, > and maybe a few more bytes for metadata, would be very helpful in a number > of scenarios. It is still a limit but a reasonable one. Otherwise, I think > we'll have a lot more inscription-style scenarios. > I wouldn't be against an increase in OP_RETURN but I don't think it will make any difference in how often inscription-style use cases will be used. They will be used primarily for much larger datasets than, say 120 bytes, and they also have the segwit discount. --000000000000c4812c05f3e0606d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 10:17 PM Chris= topher Allen via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:52 AM Aymeric Vitte via bitcoin-dev <= ;bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
I think = the right way so people don't invent deviant things is to
increase the size of OP_RETURN, I don't get this number of 80B, you can=
hardly store a signature (of what?) in there and not the "what" i= f the
"what" is a hash for example

= Updating the size of OP_RETURN to support a hash (or two), a signature, and= maybe a few more bytes for metadata, would be very helpful in a number of = scenarios. It is still a limit but a reasonable one. Otherwise, I think we&= #39;ll have a lot more inscription-style scenarios.
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I wouldn't be against an increase in O= P_RETURN but I don't think it will make any difference in how often ins= cription-style use cases will be used. They will be used primarily for much= larger datasets than, say 120 bytes, and they also have the segwit discoun= t.
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