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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
To: James MacWhyte <macwhyte@gmail.com>
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Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Security problems with relying on transaction
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On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 02:01:09AM +0200, James MacWhyte wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 12:26 AM Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> wrote:
>=20
> > Anyway, designing protocols for "price go up forever" hopium is a bad i=
dea.
> >
>=20
> I'm quite disappointed that this is what you've reduced my argument to. T=
he
> price doesn't need hopium; if it stays between where it is now and the all
> time high, that is enough to make mining rewards appealing.
>=20
> Anyway, once the LA dinner rush ends at 8PM it is already noon in Tokyo.
> The Pacific is big, but not *that* big.
>=20
> Certainly we should be designing protocols in anticipation of increased
> adoption, and not assuming the world will always be exactly as it is toda=
y?

We should design protocols that do reasonably well in *both* scenarios. Bec=
ause
the future is unknown. Hell, I won't be surprised if further developments c=
ome
along that reduce demand for on-chain txs even further.

The fact is basing security budget in part on the total value of the coin b=
eing
secured very cleanly solves the problem of ensuring that there is sufficient
mining reward. Similarly, we also have to plan for the potential environment
where fee demand is very high. And we've done a good job of that, including
Lightning, replace-by-fee, etc.

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