Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1A7189D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:22:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67CEB16B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbpu9 with SMTP id pu9so8848878lbb.3 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:22:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YuVumobnn0G4yNdOy99jO4cqhjlzhKoQUWCJ7j6S21k=; b=apv96q4xkwz+L3UcsZPQRscExHyj9iIOxRaPETqfpsuAuf6cVmM1rIbAiR8kKnrrXL Nn27PxWtCzreo6vprYjg9+vht7Q7jparankZXbL2/2X8dRaNd3Ko12tR/gxfX45owL61 QN2lnjT7I3IEyneMfynRnbrfql8e5XTjEBzsMrWeSrFPV/Nz5cBE/aSrVMFWfRwmmOKD Auyi+/I0lz6aXGo/YtQiLWSH4CqYmH3BetXz48O9rSUC+KQwSb2VJA2t8ajf7QtREmGT RoQIwACNpS7fAii0RC+MCvEE97nYt36Vtvp4TlQZUs9HO8/0nUfpb6HwPlk1EoUZTYOr ND8g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnMWpfzyH4qWEd85FVR2vWifqlFHkTKhxFHWfMoxpvGUt1cOYCuybxzGQ8YUHFNRmPko/88 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.44.232 with SMTP id h8mr2068419lam.104.1440008537807; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.15.22 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:22:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:22:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= To: Btc Drak Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:22:20 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Adam Back via bitcoin-dev > wrote: >> ignored the warnings. Many also warned that 75% was an optimally BAD >> trigger ratio (and that in a hard fork it is not a miner vote really >> as in soft-forks). Gavin & Mike ignored that warning to. I know they >> heard those warnings because I told them 1:1 in person or via email >> and had on going conversations. Others did too. > > I would like to add for the record, I also warned Gavin of this in his > PR to Bitcoin Core, and also suggested a timeout which if > activation/enforcement did not occur within, hard fork deployment > would be cancelled. His response was to delete these from the PR > claiming thresholds were not relevant conversation in his PR and > belonged elsewhere (even though they had already been discussed > elsewhere). I don't know the timeline for this, but maybe he was referring to http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009731.html (where he is one of the few people that have participated).