Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org (smtp1.osuosl.org [140.211.166.138]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEC4C002D for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 22:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4716818DC for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 22:05:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp1.osuosl.org D4716818DC Authentication-Results: smtp1.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=voskuil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.i=@voskuil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20210112 header.b=WQo3YaIK X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8irvrS8EPZhe for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 22:05:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp1.osuosl.org E3A45814B8 Received: from mail-pg1-x535.google.com (mail-pg1-x535.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::535]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3A45814B8 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 22:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg1-x535.google.com with SMTP id u71so3788585pgd.2 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 15:05:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=voskuil-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=thread-index:content-language:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:message-id:date:subject:in-reply-to:references:cc:to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=EAxb9GKey0H0/0MiApSzJr9VnqrxEGadxNAiQ0DjIr4=; b=WQo3YaIK999+v51UmeW2dKQeJepupw447EFT68xGu7Y4NuwrjeUXr1WFaSbTtbq3ED lnuuyjYoLjJ3UE94U226H/iPF7vXXpXHvCiFDD1XonOSOrJpYKhRKVgARvAId5KOS222 rBkN+yO8JYRQ4DPNp/OZ94Pc0KVJSwRD+9HnM8IwQsAolYxW50z9GsiX41SgQEpJ0iAo ZYvIZMpZr9shkqLnLgF6Fgp4UlRB8KhbkFnUPv9X4FeDLo1j26lh2LXr7AQnm4w+gk2G ShGMx0srGByBg5GgANGgdbsy/3pcBA23ToI6kFVAMtIXNeu3QNjaekUE32HjzfiFTB+9 nQsg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=thread-index:content-language:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:message-id:date:subject:in-reply-to:references:cc:to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=EAxb9GKey0H0/0MiApSzJr9VnqrxEGadxNAiQ0DjIr4=; b=mYJtO1Du/mD0+5CqX5RUHx2Enxl/PsC0iTqDC56HpsWMXVfbkqkkBtoXlTnSSpNUa7 +BsN8rylRTHMHl4nQQQz76DBtVQNlGjuPz9XnP28XzvWIjBDEKL5TUPUTAvN1XTmdnxe UxqHeKIDOUScZIdiHhXyyau8MBnw5bbo1Ha/eP2JphbA6gu98eLHsLDiJtpBQ2+BdWq1 1XePcvsngFq3AQPVRuLnE/UDBC9HOK4tKGD+x/NBdAXMq0js25/389ELWXBgsab7uozK SugmK43ckarJnIJzIIEFi4F/whStNkz+O0m6b1gw/CCgDpL/7xzzA5gDGDeHITAycDkL EL3w== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf2/P3kcp8liqpXMbVAC0BIJKFnmBsiECWynQgBWBM8Y6DH4A/ty BZ6PXwa5XUF+nSJ3PJ7ezDUvzw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7rfh80GqBLZry3eKKOEoHMGEIi+z1TSWziKM8v3nfSrBCF0Bp4DkGP8VuBsOyVvL//F/Yldw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:2316:b0:548:58b6:b17c with SMTP id h22-20020a056a00231600b0054858b6b17cmr22049849pfh.53.1665439539153; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 15:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ERICDESKTOP ([50.35.79.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y24-20020a634b18000000b004603e7788dcsm4509148pga.77.2022.10.10.15.05.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Oct 2022 15:05:38 -0700 (PDT) From: To: "'Anthony Towns'" References: <03ca01d8d8fb$1558ed50$400ac7f0$@voskuil.org> <040f01d8d93c$a58c2540$f0a46fc0$@voskuil.org> <069201d8db50$59a98c60$0cfca520$@voskuil.org> <008301d8dbac$c28280a0$478781e0$@voskuil.org> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 15:05:38 -0700 Message-ID: <009a01d8dcf4$6e913290$4bb397b0$@voskuil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQGjJkZ87zZ0BUhtE3y1t2YHVdIMmQLud6c7AVI9RdsCSqBKvwK1YZmRAZbUfhwCMCW1Da4LXkmw Cc: 'Bitcoin Protocol Discussion' Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Packaged Transaction Relay X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 22:05:41 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Towns > Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Packaged Transaction Relay > > > > > > Protocol cannot be defined on an ad-hoc basis as a "courtesy" > > > > > BIPs are a courtesy in the first place. > > > > I suppose if you felt that you were the authority then this would > > > > be your perspective. > > > You seem to think that I'm arguing courtesy is not a good thing, or > > > that we couldn't use more of it? > > That is neither what I said nor implied. You were clearly dismissing > > the public process, not advocating for politeness. > > And that is neither what I said nor implied, nor something I believe. If you > think courtesy is something that can be ignored in a public process, I don't > think you should expect much success. "BIPs are a courtesy in the first place." > If you'd like to actually participate in public standards development, please > feel free to make some technical comments on my proposals, or others, or > make your own proposal, either here or on github, or heck, anywhere else. "RE: [bitcoin-dev] Packaged Transaction Relay" > I mean, that's what I'd suggest anyway; I'm not your boss. I promise to at > least be entertainingly surprised if you make any progress with your current > approach though. Grow up Anthony. e