Delivery-date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:35:39 -0700 Received: from mail-yb1-f190.google.com ([209.85.219.190]) by mail.fairlystable.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rzeep-000287-9R for bitcoindev@gnusha.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:35:39 -0700 Received: by mail-yb1-f190.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-de45d510553sf11873917276.2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:35:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20230601; t=1713972933; x=1714577733; darn=gnusha.org; h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post :list-id:mailing-list:precedence:x-original-sender:mime-version :subject:references:in-reply-to:message-id:to:from:date:sender:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=0N+LcS+dDD4sL7zees3Py6gJTGjs74wLbO1WYNTLux0=; b=AmeBRtYMAd2lnnJC8dhr5/ajRxlu1QmL7UTAK1inliSEeM75CxpEFEOEiyiFbdwxqk scQ0Xg3cTZU89KDt58Ym8Pv/p+mDQ5eESg530t6EOhylMrYxDrWWhfJ3Z15+zY8IJUBD /luMoJWcl/+/MJstvXSESZ6vgqM5Lxbr2Ypsj+Wy0BHnjDr5N6f/OGtIl4hXBIbWybau QVGp48bBNjjgAWljhKCQhkfuuDyeJFNTVIsmfosBmaSSf3pHDtlUNOan7945EfFkFs/G jP3apgL1iKfEgc38TQZSsxriw8nA1/so/zwni9Vn0BVP5IawomNzUaDddf/3BM32kpgg TZyg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1713972933; x=1714577733; h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post :list-id:mailing-list:precedence:x-original-sender:mime-version :subject:references:in-reply-to:message-id:to:from:date:x-beenthere :x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=0N+LcS+dDD4sL7zees3Py6gJTGjs74wLbO1WYNTLux0=; b=tzVEEkogMMsZqnMYx5T/Hg/QZZQ55b6s6evX9gUlmgoJuv7QKQLBtS6Dt9UseYUf6A 6ZkX3gawRSvUwr13elFUaYCcqGYLtvcfY0VLbJS5rbJ/fGWqN+GwOgJxnpb/drPBfHrf mncA56KOILpyKvesu9AgxWTqqnz9TQ9hAk3X+bZ8OxslHBoa3nfeSAnKvW9cK9mxVw5K fBz9z2RV66dh2xMBq9h4GxJbVeISBJp9AOHtXGkoKZTUzXgWI4m6TxUVq9+vld0SOQPQ rH2YQ+efSOfBjHXbaqEFA6IRwuEe+rwtr/P19DjZwn4K6Uv9qbK9IPS/KSL+z/evz5t0 Aamg== Sender: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXWqjoyZA2VeGtDXHgLp3WrMgUaCHtI4u85HUKsNPrBStWJXWDeadOWoDHYTZJo7gbYgpjzCy5Bcnx8+bgjp92u38p+opk= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy2ZgzLbVaAH0EZX1dJOe6eoiV6k0LQXqUOFM3yffiyCsobHDU2 1Njb3aWs73C63V4rg+Vz/d6U+a+kUYgIlPIPUWxtkVPbSv35nHXw X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFmihLJ8x+kZlw9TeYuoozcbF5kGThwDsdgalbFk2a7b5+MvLV+vsln+DQYqBY2+p3z+Dl93Q== X-Received: by 2002:a25:a52a:0:b0:dcc:fe97:f899 with SMTP id h39-20020a25a52a000000b00dccfe97f899mr2947701ybi.24.1713972933523; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:35:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com Received: by 2002:a25:2748:0:b0:de5:49a0:e397 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-de5861ea018ls12061276.2.-pod-prod-07-us; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a81:80c7:0:b0:61b:69f:4c1f with SMTP id q190-20020a8180c7000000b0061b069f4c1fmr624933ywf.3.1713972932070; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 2002:a05:690c:fc6:b0:61a:e84a:c592 with SMTP id 00721157ae682-61b30c515bdms7b3; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 09:09:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a81:9e4b:0:b0:618:91c3:c8e2 with SMTP id n11-20020a819e4b000000b0061891c3c8e2mr2301112ywj.1.1713802186824; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 09:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 09:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ali Sherief To: Bitcoin Development Mailing List Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [bitcoindev] Re: Updated BIP for OP_CAT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_435270_187652630.1713802186499" X-Original-Sender: ali@notatether.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) ------=_Part_435270_187652630.1713802186499 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_435271_89912851.1713802186499" ------=_Part_435271_89912851.1713802186499 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ethan, Very good to see your OP_CAT design is now on the mailing list. Inside the BIP text, you mention that a sufficiently large OP_CAT script=20 can "support tree signatures with a thousand public keys." I think it would= =20 be more useful to put the theoretical limit there, as it is buried along=20 with the rest of the data on tree signatures inside the reference link to= =20 Blockstream's web page, which could go stale for whatever reason. On a further note, if there are enough practical uses for tree signatures,= =20 we could make it into a fully fledged BIP too, instead of just something=20 cool that would make the Stacker News front page. - Ali On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 7:21:22=E2=80=AFPM UTC Ethan Heilman wrote: Hi everyone, We've recently made a number of updates to the OP_CAT BIP proposal=20 including adding a rationale section, an expanded backwards compatibility= =20 section and an updated reference implementation. It can be found as a PR to the bitcoin/bips repo here:=20 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1525 or as BINANA BIN-2024-0001:=20 https://github.com/bitcoin-inquisition/binana/blob/master/2024/BIN-2024-000= 1.md Thanks, Ethan --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= bitcoindev/c32da32a-e950-4f76-b8b3-8206894cc836n%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_435271_89912851.1713802186499 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ethan,

Very good to see your OP_CAT design is now on the mail= ing list.

Inside the BIP text, you mention that a sufficiently l= arge OP_CAT script can "support tree signatures with a thousand public keys= ." I think it would be more useful to put the theoretical limit there, as i= t is buried along with the rest of the data on tree signatures inside the r= eference link to Blockstream's web page, which could go stale for whatever = reason.

On a further note, if there are enough practical uses fo= r tree signatures, we could make it into a fully fledged BIP too, instead o= f just something cool that would make the Stacker News front page.
- Ali

On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 7:= 21:22=E2=80=AFPM UTC Ethan Heilman wrote:
Hi everyone,

We've recently made = a number of updates to the OP_CAT BIP proposal including adding a rationale= section, an expanded backwards compatibility section and an updated refere= nce implementation.

It can be found as a PR to the bitcoin/bips = repo here:=C2=A0
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/15= 25
or as BINANA BIN-2024-0001:
https://github.com/bitcoin-inquisition/binana/blob/m= aster/2024/BIN-2024-0001.md

Thanks,
Ethan

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoind= ev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg= id/bitcoindev/c32da32a-e950-4f76-b8b3-8206894cc836n%40googlegroups.com.=
------=_Part_435271_89912851.1713802186499-- ------=_Part_435270_187652630.1713802186499--