Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B1CFEA1 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 02:25:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.103]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A41DD11D for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 02:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [88.68.27.94] (helo=anonymous) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aM4w8-00064A-Mb for bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 03:25:24 +0100 From: xor@freenetproject.org To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Reply-To: xor@freenetproject.org Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 03:25:50 +0100 Message-ID: <2998879.R5sQRbxZRv@1337h4x0r> Organization: Freenet Project User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-74-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <87si1rycux.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> References: <87si1rycux.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart50123742.ysuN96afWM"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: eG9yQGZyZWVtYWlsLmJvZ2VydC5kZQ== X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 03:23:55 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Three Month bitcoin-dev Moderation Review X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 02:25:58 -0000 --nextPart50123742.ysuN96afWM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Thursday, January 21, 2016 11:20:46 AM Rusty Russell via bitcoin-dev wrote: > So, what should moderation look like from now on? The original mail which announced moderation contains this rule: > - Generally discouraged: [...], +1s, [...] I assume "+1s" means statements such as "I agree with doing X". Any sane procedure of deciding something includes asking the involved people whether they're for or against it. If there are dozens of proposals on how to solve a particular technical problem, how else do you want to decide it than having a vote? It's very strange that this is not allowed - especially if we consider that the Bitcoin community is in a state of constant dissent currently. The effect is likely that you push the actual decision-making to IRC, which less people have access to (since it's difficult to bear the high traffic), and thus form some kind of "inner circle" - which makes decisions seem even more as if they're being dictated. So please consider allowing people to say whether they agree with something something or don't. Other than that, thanks for the good latency of moderation, I guess you're doing hard work there :) --nextPart50123742.ysuN96afWM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABCAAGBQJWoEGxAAoJEMtmZ+8tjWt5QBoP/0F4w/39+PGvLLZbRUav49nY MtFmEUVNHy/qt+2GAcPE8HjGe6gacCfmotVrbL/KgiZVEcxA62EcQyM/Zy611PCs ZztOv+JT+gmbbwh36yX6Jq8XEvtwruql9p/QHsZgFljULOBDuXh5uBfKUGlj18bd YXXPbyCf+Cr1mYU5IUbV6RTUj+D0cDG9N/cvi31AIcTdrfvIre6HfuVHXRyvEeha G0A95BVs/9Uk3T3WBYdUBtIiVIs77/dX/EO3/g+FBTWEhC9db3vBWnhawLGwPONw 6jFpgPK5jsxxop/R3Txj0AVG6flQ1B5TCVa/qZA5V2irnsA9VgCuI8C2KMeWSyY2 nS+nMGYxylthr9eVkoXZUdTIAj8a6GSnI1v22uU4X1yGUn/WfgJNCZ6yl+5B2QgB JPdX+BwSsJsgLNzlc92rW1WRBpHtXequm4lROINSCQQDCb+C69bl9Zww19uvvv1C dMhknGenFQ4EbDsOfEMYaRqn4CY2GnMQg10rfMGbKwhXLjQ4qjddjIZU7N4AJbFD 0NzQTIas/b1mRcOmh4hypw6xMS2xG7KeflqwKZDw7qH1sMNHWtQfzF6dui5P7A7n SiImHoz++sUUyZjYr0co/cu4J8hgX0ap0K9mvxQC9J1/Gsm73N/Egj3JT/99zca/ vi7cCYk5510Wue9G1meU =74BM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart50123742.ysuN96afWM--