Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58C92D75 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:58:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mout02.posteo.de (mout02.posteo.de [185.67.36.66]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 395C1D3 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD8862400E5 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 15:58:45 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1545663525; bh=QclYQJrCp1giNucn+aMHYEQBSZZpddBPsTBW0jV1m1I=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:From; b=Xil4Ynihd8zbofyy0v4T7mlX6vw4lziD0pE54WwGVQxGZSUxbGUEZaJJERWFxlBhK KfjZxEGBrHuP3XYQvsSq1l+505UlYEubMwvh6ktgrAIdsKESIpDBdYCGranu+7Y+Q7 Icxg+DouSpM6FrC+hrlf6ReN/PXvw4OhR+EAtBZT9X/FDpRiVeNKmvbAEHF149AShn 2JCJYZ/cxV3vV3FgfiyOAxNeD9OFmO7KQyK0E7PCJweUhDT3SZ6xEuhFOd3uAKAYFV 2kSWOR/m6rJT1/JWiDWQNwMWxycxrLqXmKipHzFWInxl6oATYrr3mIActEd60UsbV1 1WpzKI91KXtUw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 43Nj6Y2JHxz9rxR for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 15:58:45 +0100 (CET) To: Pavol Rusnak via bitcoin-dev References: <68330522-7e7c-c3b4-99a9-1c68ddb56f23@gmail.com> From: Tiago Romagnani Silveira Message-ID: <3db3dc04-6612-8c5c-8b37-316eb804e1f7@posteo.de> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 15:58:43 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 15:39:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP39 seeds X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:58:49 -0000 Why is this a SLIP and not a BIP? Will it require a BIP39 seed, or will work with any seed format? On 12/23/18 19:46, Pavol Rusnak via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On 22/12/2018 00:58, Aymeric Vitte via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> Has anybody already looked at this: given N randomly chosen words >> belonging to a BIP39 2048 words dictionary, what is the probability to >> get a "valid" BIP39 seed (ie with the right checksum)? > 1:256 for 24 words > 1:16 for 12 words > > This ratio is not too great and will be improved in the upcoming SLIP39 > standard: https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0039.md >