Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr3uz-0004BB-7p for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:18:09 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.90.92]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with smtp (Exim 4.76) id 1Sr3ut-0006UT-DG for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:18:09 +0000 Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2012 09:17:57 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.167] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2012 09:17:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2012 09:17:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 769349.41419.bm@omp1023.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4592 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jul 2012 09:17:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: TFmqtCsVM1nTvOXK4p9oRM9VaoXpXUHn3R7QPh5OM3ttWG. 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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [98.138.90.92 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (zgenjix[at]yahoo.com) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.0 FSL_FREEMAIL_2 FSL_FREEMAIL_2 0.0 FSL_FREEMAIL_1 FSL_FREEMAIL_1 X-Headers-End: 1Sr3ut-0006UT-DG Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amir Taaki List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:18:09 -0000 OK, pull request seems good.=0A=0AFYI we lost money on last year's conferen= ce, and are hoping to break even this year. The only people to make profit = will be nefario and anyone else we give a share in it (people who help real= ise it). Otherwise money made goes towards next year's conference and payin= g for things to make a better conference (like Gavin wanted to attend but c= ouldn't afford a ticket). It is not a commercial event, and I've been pushi= ng to keep the sponsorship and community parts highly separated. Like I rea= lly do not wish to sell a speaker slot, but if I have to (to pay the bills)= then it will be obvious due to scheduling and disclaimers that speakers ar= e sponsors.=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0AFrom: Luke-Jr =0ATo: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net=0ACc: Jeff Garzi= k ; Amir Taaki =0ASent: Tuesday, Ju= ly 17, 2012 2:09 AM=0ASubject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remo= ve hackathon=0A=0AOn Monday, July 16, 2012 11:47:02 PM Jeff Garzik wrote:= =0A> Vladimir does raise a fair point, though.=A0 Hackathon seems appropria= te=0A> for bitcoin.org as it is focused on dev-related activities.=A0 (full= =0A> disclosure: speaking at bitcoin2012.com)=A0 The conference might or=0A= > might not be.=A0 The conference does seem community focused, so I don't= =0A> object to it being on bitcoin.org...=A0 But if consensus prefers=0A> o= therwise, that's OK too.=0A=0AIMO, bitcoin.org is more community-focussed a= nyway.=0AHow often do devs use the site, compared to GitHub etc?=0A=0ASomeo= ne else made a pullreq for Bitcoin Magazine; I suggest(ed) that=0Afor-profi= t organizations should be asked to pitch in some way or another.=0AWho shou= ld organize that, I don't know. If Bitcoin Consultancy/Amir is behind =0Ath= e conference, I suggest their/his development contributions should be =0Asu= fficient in that respect.=0A=0A> PS.=A0 This seems like material for pull r= equests, which is preferred=0A> over mailing list email + git push.=A0 When= working on the satoshi=0A> client, we all ACK each other's pull req for an= ything beyond the=0A> trivial.=0A=0AI concur, this should be discussed in a= pullreq.=0A