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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mh.in.england[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1YyL9o-0002VK-LA Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposed alternatives to the 20MB step function X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 14:21:09 -0000 --089e0122e968988fcf0517392fd4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The measure is miner consensus. How do you intend to measure > exchange/merchant acceptance? > Asking them. In fact, we already have. I have been talking to well known people and CEOs in the Bitcoin community for some time now. *All* of them support bigger blocks, this includes: - Every wallet developer I have asked (other than Bitcoin Core) - So far, every payment processor and every exchange company I know Gavin has also been talking to people about this. There's a feeling on this list that there's no consensus, or that Gavin and myself are on the wrong side of it. I'd put it differently - there's very strong consensus out in the wider community and this list is something of an aberration. --089e0122e968988fcf0517392fd4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blo= ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c= cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div= class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>The measure is miner consensus.=C2=A0 How do yo= u intend to measure exchange/merchant acceptance?<br></div></div></div></di= v></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Asking them.</div><div><br></div><div>In= fact, we already have. I have been talking to well known people and CEOs i= n the Bitcoin community for some time now. <b>All</b>=C2=A0of them support = bigger blocks, this includes:</div><div><ul><li>Every wallet developer I ha= ve asked (other than Bitcoin Core)</li><li>So far, every payment processor = and every exchange company</li></ul><div>I know Gavin has also been talking= to people about this.</div></div><div><br></div><div>There's a feeling= on this list that there's no consensus, or that Gavin and myself are o= n the wrong side of it. I'd put it differently - there's very stron= g consensus out in the wider community and this list is something of an abe= rration.</div></div></div></div> --089e0122e968988fcf0517392fd4--