Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WaXyo-0002xK-RK for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 22:06:54 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.217.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.174; envelope-from=gmaxwell@gmail.com; helo=mail-lb0-f174.google.com; Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com ([209.85.217.174]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WaXyo-000638-44 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 22:06:54 +0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f174.google.com with SMTP id u14so8653750lbd.33 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:06:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.13.72 with SMTP id f8mr3153573lbc.40.1397686007503; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.89.68 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:06:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:06:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Gregory Maxwell To: Wladimir Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (gmaxwell[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WaXyo-000638-44 Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Warning message when running wallet in Windows XP (or drop support?) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 22:06:55 -0000 Bringing the thread back on-topic: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Wladimir wrote: > Hello, > Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet > banking with Windows XP. > If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not > secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as they > have no keys to protect). > Any opinions on what to do here? I think eventually multi-wallet support will make it so that a wallet won't be created by default. Instead users would create-wallet, which would also give them options like using a HSM (e.g. trezor) or multisig secured wallet. That would be a great point where, if they elect to run and ordinary unsecured wallet, and the software detects that the host is known-to-not-likely-be-secure it could whine at them and direct them to a security best practices page. Then you also avoid whining at people who never run a wallet or use a hsm making the host security somewhat moot.