Return-Path: <karra.etc@gmail.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA5364A4 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:02:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-pd0-f172.google.com (mail-pd0-f172.google.com [209.85.192.172]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB74E1A5 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pdbnt7 with SMTP id nt7so70518240pdb.0 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:02:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=1TBZ0reGmW+psHcdy5yUeqAJvwd4XkFuD+tzDg8TVos=; b=j8KksSt44UMspCMWtRb1/e80ZZekAj1MPtPsVBkcPEnSF+JSniooKG350oFDPgXlYa aywOBh7uazl0/p8JqjVBk5fClKRaN4Q5VEpSaCTMLDK8s6AMIzzGPWD5vHrOML/ZnpNr +Csv6X/t6OmW8tt14IrIb3bN+NZOKR8uiyHvDntya2vjIAIUAGLfxthOxkdd0LMPw7mV KyN0WV7gXeiGTPZPCG7HlrMgXCyVjCeGThPdw9j8sj6eKhONITMbiheIqfnw9wIy2gCe wDDXBjm8DMiL6p5Sd0XfzSY1GliLY7uP4lcO/96iWL4LTWTS/T7J20B31jRYalBVbBuM r7Mg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.1.102 with SMTP id 6mr7933788pdl.32.1437584569296; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.83.7 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:02:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150721135846.GB13429@savin.petertodd.org> References: <CADm_WcZKoMAhYvXbFMbE+5K9HOD75YkQu8_qTW4S6YN6ZMrfjA@mail.gmail.com> <55A9421B.6040605@jrn.me.uk> <55AC29DB.4060800@jrn.me.uk> <CABm2gDr6qXzvcpX_To39kCEsnQNTQS4M5Y40Yk_Lw481rjvSag@mail.gmail.com> <20150721130412.GA4551@savin.petertodd.org> <20150721135846.GB13429@savin.petertodd.org> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 22:32:49 +0530 Message-ID: <CAFkt3UONhyEuKHZOVwk6URQVSeseN6RXsYBNK8gUcXeraE62Jg@mail.gmail.com> From: Sriram Karra <karra.etc@gmail.com> To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d7d84966d35051b79bd5d X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP 102 - kick the can down the road to 2MB X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:02:50 -0000 --047d7b6d7d84966d35051b79bd5d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > I personally *don't* think he's doing that, rather I believe he knows > full well it's a bad patch and is proposing it because he wants to push > discussion towards a solution. Often trolling the a audience with bad > patches is an effective way to motivate people to respond by writing > better ones; Jeff has told me he often does exactly that. > > I think in this case we shouldn't do anything, so short-circuiting that > process by pointing out what he's doing publicly makes sense. > Assuming that's what Jeff is doing, how does preventing better solutions from emerging 'make sense'? --047d7b6d7d84966d35051b79bd5d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"lt= r"><<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_= blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><div>= =C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo= rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I personally *don't* think he's doing that, rather I believe he kno= ws<br> full well it's a bad patch and is proposing it because he wants to push= <br> discussion towards a solution. Often trolling the a audience with bad<br> patches is an effective way to motivate people to respond by writing<br> better ones; Jeff has told me he often does exactly that.<br> <br> I think in this case we shouldn't do anything, so short-circuiting that= <br> process by pointing out what he's doing publicly makes sense.<br></bloc= kquote><div><br></div><div>Assuming that's what Jeff is doing, how does= preventing better solutions from emerging 'make sense'?<br></div><= /div></div></div> --047d7b6d7d84966d35051b79bd5d--