Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA1EBAEF for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 22:21:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:08:25 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from ns3094582.localdomain (outbound.chino.ws [91.121.200.135]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EDC1F2 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 22:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ot0-f179.google.com (mail-ot0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by ns3094582.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3246D81982 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ot0-f179.google.com with SMTP id s7so100077995otb.3 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:13:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOzUy3CBjYS2S3+AuIC2zfDNOJnKultLoMKk29ok4QehEIzqUGlb xABZUxIspOzC+5MmtNUFHOZj/tnWNQ== X-Received: by 10.157.15.231 with SMTP id m36mr15024509otd.33.1497996787457; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: bitdev@theochino.com Received: by 10.182.177.70 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:13:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Theo Chino Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:13:06 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Bitcoin Dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113ef88c642d3605526b8e13" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Fwd: Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 22:21:36 -0000 --001a113ef88c642d3605526b8e13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken and team, Took some time but here it is ! *Bravo !* And as usual reporter make up the shit they want ... Feel free to remind them that we had a working group and we worked on it. https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/20/15840008/new-emoji- unicode-consortium-version-10-bitcoin-symbol The "Could be" is a bit too much. It's time we keep reporter in check so feel free to remind her in your own way. My way is "pissed off tweet", https://twitter.com/TheoBitcoin/status/ 877277497796198400 but used your own way. A page is officially turned. Regards, Theo On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Danny Thorpe > wrote: > >> What of this prior effort, proposing B-with-horizontal-bar (=C9=83)? >> http://bitcoinsymbol.org/ >> >> They argue that B-with-2-vertical-bars is easily confused with the Thai >> Bhat currency symbol, which is a B with a single vertical bar. >> > > Actually that page argues that using the Thai Bhat currency symbol *for* > Bitcoin causes confusion. From the page you linked to: > > The Thai Baht (=E0=B8=BF ) is so= metimes > used to represent Bitcoin, but this certainly raises a problem of > differenciation between the Thai Baht and Bitcoin. > > Their main motivation for using the horizontal-bar =C9=83 (which they adm= it is > a hack) is they consider adding a character to Unicode to be a "really lo= ng > and complicated process". My view is that adding the bitcoin sign to > Unicode avoids confusion with the Thai Baht, avoids hacks such as =C9=83,= and > lets everyone use the standard symbol. Hopefully it won't be a really lon= g > and complicated process... > > Ken > > >> I'm not terribly fond of the B-with-horizontal-bar as a symbol, but it >> does have the advantage that it is already in the Unicode glyph set, >> already available on most Unicode enabled devices. >> >> -Danny >> >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev < >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >> >>> Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin >>> symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a propo= sal >>> to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode= . >>> I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm >>> familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeedin= g. >>> The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf >>> >>> I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group, >>> so I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin develo= pers >>> will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding this >>> symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bitcoin-dev mailing list >>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > --001a113ef88c642d3605526b8e13 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Ken and team,

Took some time but here it is ! <= b>Bravo !

And as usual reporter make up the shit the= y want ... Feel free to remind them that we had a working group and we work= ed on it.
https://= www.theverge.com/2017/6/20/15840008/new-emoji-unicode-consortium-= version-10-bitcoin-symbol

The "Could be" is a bit= too much. It's time we keep reporter in check so feel free to remind h= er in your own way.
My way is "pissed off tweet", https://twitter.com/TheoBitcoin/status/877277497796198400 bu= t used your own way.

A page is officially turned.

Regards,
Theo

On = Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:


On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Dann= y Thorpe <danny.thorpe@gmail.com> wrote:
What of this prior effort, proposing B-with-horizont= al-bar (=C9=83)? ht= tp://bitcoinsymbol.org/

They argue that B-with-2-ver= tical-bars is easily confused with the Thai Bhat currency symbol, which is = a B with a single vertical bar.=C2=A0

Actually that page argues that using the Thai Bhat currency s= ymbol for Bitcoin causes confusion. From the page you linked to:

The Thai Baht (<= /span>=E0=B8=BF) is sometimes u= sed to represent Bitcoin, but this certainly raises a problem of differenci= ation between the Thai Baht and Bitcoin.
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Their main motivation for using the horizontal-bar=C2=A0=C9=83 (whic= h they admit is a hack) is they consider adding a character to Unicode to b= e a=C2=A0"really long and complicated process". My view is that a= dding the bitcoin sign to Unicode avoids confusion with the Thai Baht, avoi= ds hacks such as=C2=A0=C9=83, and lets everyone use the standard symbol. Ho= pefully it won't be a really long and complicated process...

Ken


I'm not terribly fond of the B-with-hori= zontal-bar as a symbol, but it does have the advantage that it is already i= n the Unicode glyph set, already available on most Unicode enabled devices.=

-Danny

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On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-d= ev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>= wrote:
Use of t= he bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin symbol isn&#= 39;t in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a proposal to h= ave the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode. I'= ve successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm fam= iliar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding. The = proposal is at=C2=A0http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf

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I received a suggestion to run this proposal by = the bitcoin-dev group, so I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsemen= t by Bitcoin developers will help the Unicode Committee realize the importa= nce of adding this symbol, so please let me know if you support this propos= al.

Thanks,
Ken



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