Return-Path: <tamas.blummer@gmail.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBCF31388 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:48:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-vk1-f169.google.com (mail-vk1-f169.google.com [209.85.221.169]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF9B41FB for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk1-f169.google.com with SMTP id f206so1315257vke.6 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 11:48:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+IZ9TTiTtQwhxgfqnOQoTMRsW80w5SYTA2Yh0Zee6nw=; b=CtjbVQrEb33UA+vxXNYU17wIpNerMqOSq7EjZIyYE79l33SWbverGNoeD5DEp96MoV p0pJU7G8RDGvQr1YmQ5mDoJdsfxjnJe4E744MitusfEy6MiXmX0Vr3Mau2Uj/RdT0VF5 oC32vAKR9jPsTJaxD3MEoDW9qptVCIXWV66feQusmf/QqbuDj/N+AGERNRQSAieJokIi Wil2Ci3cCi/RaNWa4UwtATo62RF91Df9QaehbJHH1D1TkF8hdUxgQVVI0MfO9hKv1MhH QF8BgFjQWN3ex67gGHiVe5uPNvdEnQ11ooJu40kdeMRNfeXug9/JtCNYBTkUwfw58Xod djNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+IZ9TTiTtQwhxgfqnOQoTMRsW80w5SYTA2Yh0Zee6nw=; b=CIkRioQzulJL0FQRKUKYXxShVuDRy7yeYRQJ9zbtboV7vDsp98eyvnZWMLAIkTjUoY 49cOcdbkMzTFcq76STNm9T40Tw2edvthzZvQWyDGHaNQegq2zhtOI/jtVSBTuJA0wFTn QLIoFqz1+gw7wrHIvT6hY441Kr3lHCTvZfuF9r0K4Wuf21E9j8xcnzV5Rer+5EKjDRsr zun0ilHof8vGkaDwrj0e6tPl9Q0NjjUM2sE0XHg4Oc146NbG4Hr+b9ARjXs5jAE28SkE Zswb6lBr0+v+vt+MNrEv4S5o3zF+Ub0S8zeCTS8MBy7sGWug5fQi2O/ZNltMzOXlsoe0 7ACw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuahvfQPBdkXgd7xotP5VGTc6qvkMOYLfMsUb0dKzRaf65XqUkqO JVq0jcWgK6q9GMRpZPRjJWH6hfSMj/MPlqnnrXY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IbskC/qe84VtnnYuZAe/I7epqGruI7xZDi7+SBPbWxsZouRPAPea/Qthr14b4Xe/4q4A/yI+f4rLAd4ZnrzO30= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:19d6:: with SMTP id 205mr4777746vkz.53.1549482503705; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 11:48:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6D57649F-0236-4FBA-8376-4815F5F39E8A@gmail.com> <CADZtCSgKu1LvjePNPT=0C0UYQvb47Ca0YN+B_AfgVNTpcOno4w@mail.gmail.com> <CDAFC2F7-A0AD-460B-B5B1-A717F7EC700E@gmail.com> <CAO3Pvs_gvYy99Bch=7RwVszM_0PFTKUyqDVok=xfm4OOcqwaaQ@mail.gmail.com> <6D36035C-A675-4845-9292-3BC16CD19B41@gmail.com> <CAO3Pvs_Ai9d_uHC2a3ndGXhBoV-PDp2y_NShkbn=hRuzu=wNFw@mail.gmail.com> <5A850549-B6C9-4590-BA9B-0D69BBE531F9@gmail.com> <CAAS2fgRY-EaPMORjipJuysi-z61VUMivOKmSeO1Rv7vXOPeLKQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgRY-EaPMORjipJuysi-z61VUMivOKmSeO1Rv7vXOPeLKQ@mail.gmail.com> From: Tamas Blummer <tamas.blummer@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:48:09 +0000 Message-ID: <CAGc5dgbm0wQKs4bAyN8bPdqq=RbS--TvcvUOmX2_rMTCx0POAg@mail.gmail.com> To: Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000381eac05813f0274" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 20:16:52 +0000 Cc: Jim Posen <jimpo@coinbase.com>, Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Interrogating a BIP157 server, BIP158 change proposal X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 19:48:25 -0000 --000000000000381eac05813f0274 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I do not think this ad hominem attack of you on me was justified. I wrote code, gathered and shared data now and back in 2018. I showed understanding of non technical issues. Is there an actual action that defies my observation that a commitment is not yet in sight? Is there anything technically wrong in what I wrote? If not you should stop. Tamas Blummer On Wed, 6 Feb 2019, 18:17 Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph.org wrote: > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 8:10 AM Tamas Blummer <tamas.blummer@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I am skeptical that commitment of any filter will come into Core soon. > [...] A committed filter makes light clients much more reliable and > attractive, for some taste too much more. > > You keep repeating this smear. Please stop. > > If you would actually bother reading the threads where this was > discussed previously you will see that there was significant interest > from bitcoin developers to eventually commit an output filter, and a > significant investment of effort in improving the proposal to that > end. It is really disheartening to see you continue to repeat your > negative assumptions about other people's wishes when you haven't even > invested the time required to read their words. > --000000000000381eac05813f0274 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">I do not think this ad hominem attack of you on me was ju= stified.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I wrote code, gathere= d and shared data now and back in 2018. I showed understanding of non techn= ical issues. Is there an actual action that defies my observation that a co= mmitment is not yet in sight?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"= auto">Is there anything technically wrong in what I wrote?=C2=A0</div><div = dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If not you should stop.</div><div = dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Tamas Blummer</div><br><br><div cl= ass=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, 6 Feb 2019, 18:17= Gregory Maxwell <<a href=3D"mailto:greg@xiph.org">greg@xiph.org</a> wro= te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b= order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 8:10 AM = Tamas Blummer <<a href=3D"mailto:tamas.blummer@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla= nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">tamas.blummer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > I am skeptical that commitment of any filter will come into Core soon.= [...] A committed filter makes light clients much more reliable and attrac= tive, for some taste too much more.<br> <br> You keep repeating this smear. Please stop.<br> <br> If you would actually bother reading the threads where this was<br> discussed previously you will see that there was significant interest<br> from bitcoin developers to eventually commit an output filter, and a<br> significant investment of effort in improving the proposal to that<br> end.=C2=A0 It is really disheartening to see you continue to repeat your<br= > negative assumptions about other people's wishes when you haven't e= ven<br> invested the time required to read their words.<br> </blockquote></div></div> --000000000000381eac05813f0274--