Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BF8A99A for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:36:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:22:57 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from gateway21.websitewelcome.com (gateway21.websitewelcome.com [192.185.45.159]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A792B10A for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm1.websitewelcome.com (unknown [192.185.0.102]) by gateway21.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8275F45E29D96 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 05:13:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator4061.hostgator.com ([192.185.4.72]) by cm1.websitewelcome.com with id YADc1t00T1ZDqLo01ADdtv; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 05:13:37 -0500 Received: from [192.253.240.139] (port=51994) by gator4061.hostgator.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1bZxqp-0006CM-ON; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 05:13:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1B159218-1AE8-4151-A0CF-216FC1A082E9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail From: "Dana L. Coe" X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <57B4113E.4010502@jonasschnelli.ch> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 18:13:29 +0800 Message-Id: References: <57B31EBC.1030806@jonasschnelli.ch> <9c8dd0e5-e333-90c8-965f-10fb29d875a5@thomaskerin.io> <57B4113E.4010502@jonasschnelli.ch> To: Jonas Schnelli , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator4061.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.linuxfoundation.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bitlox.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 192.253.240.139 X-Exim-ID: 1bZxqp-0006CM-ON X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.253.240.139]) [192.253.240.139]:51994 X-Source-Auth: dana.coe@bitlox.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: Y2VoaGs7Y2VoaGs7Z2F0b3I0MDYxLmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:00:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Hardware Wallet Standard X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:36:36 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1B159218-1AE8-4151-A0CF-216FC1A082E9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > On Aug 17, 2016, at 15:24, Jonas Schnelli via bitcoin-dev = wrote: >=20 > URI scheme instead of stdio/pipe > -------------------------------- > The URI scheme is not ugly. Its a modern way =96 implemented in almost = all > platforms =96 how applications can interact with each other while not > directly knowing each other. Registering a URI scheme like = "bitcoin://" > has some concrete advantages over just piping through stdio. >=20 > Also, the stdio/piping approach does not work for mobile platforms > (where the URI scheme works). >=20 > The URI scheme does not require any sorts of wallet app level > configuration (where the stdio/pipe approach would require to = configure > some details about the used hardware wallet). Hi everybody, just thought I=92d throw my opinion in here. The URI scheme is a nice idea, but this ignores the fact that hardware = wallet vendors do most of the work on talking between the = computer/mobile and the wallet on a lower level of communication. In the = case of BitLox, the base protocol is Google=92s ProtoBuf. The commands = and transaction data is in a =93schema=94 which is then encoded in = different methods accessible via ProtoBuf (depending on the data being = sent). The advantages of this protocol is that it can be implemented on = a wide variety of platforms. (but that=92s a whole 'nother discussion) The URI would be handled waaaaay up in the specific application (such as = the mytrezor wallet software or the various standalone wallets) - = nowhere near the actual hardware communications layer. Best regards, Dana BitLox --Apple-Mail=_1B159218-1AE8-4151-A0CF-216FC1A082E9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXtDjKAAoJEEL86rLDzJPfGxsP/jvzjb4JuykX4wuB2aU2vsBx mEEDop7N8VgCjuvl3vgdUV6EHdO3i1NqSyE8bUyETfEwPWMqN43YExemh/websSU hR0AJTDqYgENE9zP4q8iDHK78ZfHfPsgTaRp1P+jjr4IsbK/2sWyijmfb0KBxcOF pkOKcCuB6qnAbFkqmkl61d7ZHbrAxHsusu8qb50y92q2h0nesKokUQYyyzFWM7hP UTpD+ll9HIO3+jfaVaW6Bn7cefWp66UbwdqFApCcAK++dZ1HczbYHpcAUCM3BFxw y5I8DGSlYyzXOdza5qUkcXZta0WxQWIAWYT3uGy/l8p/ewuRaXa5fy16NdoO9wIH CpPjk4l3Kds0ZnlETYDfeuqNb/z1PZRHzBF6KmFuzmXm+vWLelCRyXzALBfPWDLv cAYTaSzrxOfWVu3UejiUK5n0/YXNhAuS4Q2vuPh7j1+6hoOaxY9TZoJXktzgNfIO HDENGibKsIi7D07oXkuZoziA3NlhQ0GdRNNwaZhabel9SaD0IsvcnsDHA+ELHTT/ s2KXMc5EDBI5W4sqqTGQOxA9vKLQvZ9VtnNuUuzaaWsw0r9aBrZ3E22n4sWTPJTS 6E/6Bw2PcMMzCzOQHoXfxaP8BFynoJzg00grC68KzaL0o1Z8v0DT6lrDESD+r95j GvhYoH9pVPriiifKpEFC =XNcu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_1B159218-1AE8-4151-A0CF-216FC1A082E9--