Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2571C000E for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0246063A for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:06:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp3.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BWy5CJ-JicuR for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:05:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from mail-ej1-x635.google.com (mail-ej1-x635.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::635]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 932796005E for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ej1-x635.google.com with SMTP id l24so2142999ejq.11 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:05:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lXlex9AhcsLSM4lZDdBfofLmgUPaVcgJxdbHem0kfsY=; b=flCGvf5HV5aLksRqRhbfooQyuvwDO39XHTV3HuGfNy6hmROKuygjQm8aLAMRicDf0O YX1KJhxuMOzkANds3913lPmyqN1BBJr5096A4ueW7bzWtD9p/FITIaykHkgUKIg+Ewyx gApvt8eeOvX5oV8mV1i7rM/CeZYVnYEuqXR98FjbsySli5ZBtX6esyNe6Hs870BByb6/ TLhBTYOV/FRII3swWzH237BVTWcSxr8wwvJXIP1ZPSCvmKY5d8w3eZkDZdrPD1OwUvDF o+1i4XZAtHqcVxe43Rv3mjDbd3/AUEeACOKGFR8GFXWEUCHq38uUOcQNnyke1vEU9m+h /v8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lXlex9AhcsLSM4lZDdBfofLmgUPaVcgJxdbHem0kfsY=; b=WMGwqt66egazqjZ9n7Ms0DXCao4k2p+bI+x8gU+HbfBvVwdY4lGeZ9zvCx3JQuGQmd eWRla446ru3NVxVIJ9KWKHY47dfx7hSxjh8Xm37TleoitwmGkz3f8hC33ZplbElaD0KW RF4fsKjA+dq6LBpUVyTH9Z56i3eYQvKYaC5SFFvT+HuA1kAlk7HNRaK6j3wam8aLsdb5 9YaQxkmM+RGtBqL8jFMSIavn6Qo9UHYwYBfD/lBSYO3NuamMrJ/V795UbO08d3+4vsCC c7wi8lrdhI2ZfHKOjwT8Qfp/0XceZF6UrXNJhLOTiuOrvm+Ca1lJHE+dZ/BldOTTYs22 SL5g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533F1HnKxsDXKTcgmMd84yooObfu6dQAyvgcYa9s/o4tXlmccj5o U8aNh3hlC4mPoKPSS+EzNeFRagzmWXo96KXeWAo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwXP2BA+1ZEAXQ03JVtvZlDxAkC+zWnLkctazzKlK28Nn182B73HBrajilfc7Uk5sqORnIPVTnNcrh1JfDzZ7A= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:a019:: with SMTP id p25mr25470636ejy.483.1624903557742; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:05:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6leV9mViysrSOipJqrCM3wbqBOMO2gWI3BuEn0VKmaDf7GpawWyUIWLu-ddypMri7YeVmw94HNSaQYYp8fIkjZ0S3OtFTPQa6h9pkLprKDI=@protonmail.com> <9c2cec326adee1f4d4152e2195da0e7b@riseup.net> <361A8332-2815-4840-ACE1-CB790C9816F5@taoeffect.com> <24247e0d669750ed7d7754b4fc5491b4@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: <24247e0d669750ed7d7754b4fc5491b4@riseup.net> From: Ricardo Filipe Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 19:05:46 +0100 Message-ID: To: raymo@riseup.net, Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 19:04:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Boost Bitcoin circulation, Million Transactions Per Second with stronger privacy X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:06:00 -0000 I believe Zman meant issuer. raymo via bitcoin-dev escreveu no dia segunda, 28/06/2021 =C3=A0(s) 18:45: > > Hi Greg, > You are right, the whole scenario is: > there is an issuer which own a UTXO > issuers get fiat money or goods or services from creditor in exchange of > a transaction. > the transactions are intended to circulate in Sabu protocol instead of > sending to Bitcoin network. > creditor can not sign the transaction at all. instead he can ask issuer > to change the balances (transaction outputs) and transfer some of his > money to other creditor... > here is complete paper to read it carefully: > https://raymo-49157.medium.com/time-to-boost-bitcoin-circulation-million-= transactions-per-second-and-privacy-1eef8568d180 > > Cheers > Raymo > > > On 2021-06-28 17:29, Tao Effect wrote: > > Hi ZmnSCPxj & Raymo, > > > >> On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:28 AM, ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev > >> wrote: > >> > >> Good morning Raymo, > >> > >>> Hi ZmnSCPxj, > >> > >>> [=E2=80=A6] > >> What prevents the creditor from signing a transaction that is > >> neither a valid MT nor a GT? > >> > >> Nothing. > > > > How would the creditor create such a transaction? They need the > > issuer=E2=80=99s private key, so they can=E2=80=99t create it? Am I > > misunderstanding the scenario you=E2=80=99re describing? If so could yo= u > > give a more detailed description? > > > > Cheers, > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev