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From: Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:00:01 -0300
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To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Drivechain proposal using OP_COUNT_ACKS
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Peter, are you really going to try to down vote a decent free and
open-source proposal that benefits all the Bitcoin community including
you and your future children because a personal attack to me without any
logic or basis?

Is that the way you collaborate to improving Bitcoin?

I just can't believe it.

Let's open another thread elsewhere to discuss hardware and software
patents, and that particular one, if you wish, this is NOT the place.


On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 12:49:08PM -0300, Sergio Demian Lerner via
> bitcoin-dev wrote:
>
> I think your history of patenting(1) Bitcoin consensus relevant technology
> is
> sufficient by itself to be extremely dubious of any proposals coming from
> you
> or your colleagues; patents on Bitcoin consensus technology are a serious
> threat to decentralization. Personally, I'm NACKing this proposal on that
> basis
> alone.
>
> You need to rectify this dangerous and unethical behavior in a convincing,
> legally binding way. I'd suggest looking into Blockstream's patent pledges
> as a
> way forward:
>
>     https://www.blockstream.com/about/patent_pledge/
>
> I see no reason to have any further discussion of your proposal until this
> is
> rectified.
>
> 1) "AsicBoost is a patent-pending method to improve the efficiency and
> cost of Bitcoin mining by approximately 20%"
>    http://www.asicboost.com/single-post/2016/03/24/AsicBoost-Press-Release
>
> > Since ScalingBitcoin is close, I think this is a good moment to publish
> our
> > proposal on drivechains. This BIP proposed the drivechain we'd like to
> use
> > in RSK (a.k.a. Rootstock) two-way pegged blockchain and see it
> implemented
>
> --
> https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Peter, are you really going to try to down vote a dec=
ent free and open-source proposal that benefits all the Bitcoin community i=
ncluding=C2=A0 <br>you and your future children because a personal attack t=
o me without any logic or basis? <br><br>Is that the way you collaborate to=
 improving Bitcoin?<br><br></div>I just can&#39;t believe it.<br><br><div>L=
et&#39;s open another thread elsewhere to discuss hardware and software pat=
ents, and that particular one, if you wish, this is NOT the place.<br><br><=
/div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Peter Todd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:pete@petertodd.org" target=3D"_blank">pete@petertodd.org</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sun, Oct 02, 2016=
 at 12:49:08PM -0300, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev wrote:<br>
<br>
I think your history of patenting(1) Bitcoin consensus relevant technology =
is<br>
sufficient by itself to be extremely dubious of any proposals coming from y=
ou<br>
or your colleagues; patents on Bitcoin consensus technology are a serious<b=
r>
threat to decentralization. Personally, I&#39;m NACKing this proposal on th=
at basis<br>
alone.<br>
<br>
You need to rectify this dangerous and unethical behavior in a convincing,<=
br>
legally binding way. I&#39;d suggest looking into Blockstream&#39;s patent =
pledges as a<br>
way forward:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://www.blockstream.com/about/patent_pledge/" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.blockstream.com/<wbr>about=
/patent_pledge/</a><br>
<br>
I see no reason to have any further discussion of your proposal until this =
is<br>
rectified.<br>
<br>
1) &quot;AsicBoost is a patent-pending method to improve the efficiency and=
 cost of Bitcoin mining by approximately 20%&quot;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.asicboost.com/single-post/2016/03/24/Asi=
cBoost-Press-Release" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.asicb=
oost.com/<wbr>single-post/2016/03/24/<wbr>AsicBoost-Press-Release</a><br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
&gt; Since ScalingBitcoin is close, I think this is a good moment to publis=
h our<br>
&gt; proposal on drivechains. This BIP proposed the drivechain we&#39;d lik=
e to use<br>
&gt; in RSK (a.k.a. Rootstock) two-way pegged blockchain and see it impleme=
nted<br>
<br>
</div></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
<a href=3D"https://petertodd.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://petertodd.org</a> &#39;peter&#39;[:-1]@<a href=3D"http://petertodd.org"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">petertodd.org</a><br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>

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