Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sfa9G-0001YU-8J for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:17:26 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Sfa9F-0007PB-Db for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:17:26 +0000 Received: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so3412671lbo.34 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:17:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=f3320VeV0FfA5wJDu+TmkDtSUn7ElRxBtyZ4Hgvu2qw=; b=m2lutm+2kvnQ0d++2ZZw9VIBFM774c6zF4g2o5TQedR5zqxD91hHAu1n3wfUFw04A+ g9uLnToVu+LSzy3r4SAcwI6dkQIRkPZn2PVHlgpOTbyfTbIwpYg7IY1kJ/hpkOPNsZZq s1S6XJgfY1oz3QoRPoHTaUhbxQatNba3MjAOMKsBqjy0IYmUZ4CFas7GneSl4DDioGK+ TX2g5EUlkdhfCEl9JU6T2qAnvOvYr/WR3uZ0DSUl+zVmmrwAae0V48xIVD+/JJI0HFih Zdn9iDUlrAaI6Rk6pQxfhI3GlHZemmdznV309XlzcMMsLvrEqI535kX6Q6lni8uwHzbi HDxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.25.100 with SMTP id b4mr2850792lbg.55.1339780638616; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.19.70 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:17:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2001:4830:1603:2:21c:c0ff:fe79:c8c2] Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:17:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jeff Garzik To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnCTEisBAX3qa8lCspCboLk4TqxoQbV6jBgSd2JvsgPUwf3nh7PWcjxYCZLMuPkCJbBvKTt X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. X-Headers-End: 1Sfa9F-0007PB-Db Subject: [Bitcoin-development] SatoshiDice and Near-term scalability X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:17:26 -0000 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Stefan Thomas wrote: > The artificial limits like the block size limit are essentially putting [...] Changing the block size is an item for the hard-fork list. The chance of the block size limit changing in the short term seems rather low... it is a "nuclear option." Hard-fork requires a very high level of community buy-in, because it shuts out older clients who will simply refuse to consider >1MB blocks valid. Anything approaching that level of change would need some good, hard data indicating that SatoshiDice was shutting out the majority of other traffic. Does anyone measure mainnet "normal tx" confirmation times on a regular basis? Any other hard data? Clearly SatoshiDice is a heavy user of the network, but there is a vast difference between a good stress test and a network flood that is shutting out non-SD users. Can someone please help quantify the situation? kthanks :) -- Jeff Garzik exMULTI, Inc. jgarzik@exmulti.com