Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TdBf1-0001aQ-G5 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:16:35 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.214.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.47; envelope-from=walter.stanish@gmail.com; helo=mail-bk0-f47.google.com; Received: from mail-bk0-f47.google.com ([209.85.214.47]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1TdBez-0000X5-6v for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:16:35 +0000 Received: by mail-bk0-f47.google.com with SMTP id j4so3469622bkw.34 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:16:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.151.21 with SMTP id a21mr4162166bkw.124.1353986186778; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:16:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: walter.stanish@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.49.133 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:16:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:16:26 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1VqyLIAwIgQw9BwBTLDe7iwNefc Message-ID: From: Walter Stanish To: Gregory Maxwell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (walter.stanish[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1TdBez-0000X5-6v Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Payment Protocol Proposal: Invoices/Payments/Receipts X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:16:35 -0000 >> X-ISO4217-A3 > > I see that draft-stanish-x-iso4217-a3 is not standards track, is there > a reason for this? Of the three currently published proposals, all are essentially IANA registry proposals. We are currently working with IETF staff, with open offers of support from multiple well funded commercial bodies, to transition these proposals through to IANA management. It appears that the Independent Stream Editor path will be used to transition these through to IANA, at which time the proposals themselves will be converted to Informational status. (As far as I understand right now, Within the IETF, Standards Track has special meaning and entails relatively large degrees of bureaucracy that are not within the current contributors' resources. It is also worth pointing out that many popular protocols implemented on the majority of systems (IIRC, such as IMAP) never reach formal standardization for this reason. It should be noted that in these cases, this does not make the protocols any less attractive as potential components for system implementation.) > It also doesn't appear to address ~any of the the targeted items here. > Is there another draft I should be looking for which has more overlap > with the discussion here? As outlined in the previous post: - Internet Financial EXchange (IFEX). A proposal under development that facilitates the negotiation of financial transactions between internet-based financial endpoints. (The area we would love your input) http://www.ifex-project.org/our-proposals/ifex As well as the information linked to above, significant but not particularly well grounded discussions have occurred regarding the IFEX-based paradigm for settlement versus some other proposed paradigms, in particular Ripple (as it appeared some months ago), which can be read here: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/rippleusers/v4bEBZZVEsA[1-25] Kind regards and with the hopes of combining our efforts as a joint proposal that can benefit other currencies/commodities and settlement systems as well as Bitcoin, Walter Stanish Skype:walter.stanish