Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UsGZu-0000C4-E5 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:05:54 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.160.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.52; envelope-from=kravets@gmail.com; helo=mail-pb0-f52.google.com; Received: from mail-pb0-f52.google.com ([209.85.160.52]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1UsGZt-0001QO-8r for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:05:54 +0000 Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id xa12so1222212pbc.39 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:05:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.166.232 with SMTP id zj8mr7394217pab.139.1372356347318; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.250.163 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:05:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1372353053.10405.140661249237317.77984E1F@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:05:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Alex Kravets To: Gregory Maxwell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc9c5e96571104e0269c2a X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (kravets[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1UsGZt-0001QO-8r Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:05:54 -0000 --047d7bdc9c5e96571104e0269c2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys, This would be a big step forward. Anecdotally I can report that <5% of * non-nerds* who don't abandon Bitcoin after waiting for the initial blockchain download and *ongoing* sync on every restart, end up using blockchain.info simply because it just works and works on their iPads & iPhones. Conversely, all the serious nerds end up using Armory and/or Brainwallets for ultimate control. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote= : > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Jim wrote: > > Let me know if you think this is a good idea (or not!) > > and if you have any questions. > > Being able to promote a fast SPV desktop wallet would be great! > > I went through an cycle of testing on multibit after I saw some > complaints when it went up on the page before without at lot of > discussion. There were a number of issues with it at the time, in > particular the frequent deadlocks=E2=80=94 though Mike was saying that th= ose > should be fixed. > > I see some of the the other things that were concerning for me at the > time are still uncorrected though, e.g. no proxy support (so users > can't follow our recommended best practices of using it with Tor), > that it reuses addresses (esp for change), that it doesn't clearly > distinguish confirmation level. It also make repeated https > connections to 141.101.113.245? (I'm not seeing the IP in the source, > and it doesn't have a useful reverse dns entry, so I can't tell what > its for). Is there any timeframe for changing any of this stuff? > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > --=20 Alex Kravets def redPill =3D ' Scala [[ brutal honesty is the best policy ]] --047d7bdc9c5e96571104e0269c2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi guys,

This would be a big step forwa= rd. =C2=A0Anecdotally I can report that <5% of non-nerds who don&= #39;t abandon Bitcoin after waiting for the initial blockchain download and= ongoing sync on every restart, end up using blockchain.info simply because it just works and works on t= heir iPads & iPhones.

Conversely, all the serious nerds end up using Ar= mory and/or Brainwallets for ultimate control.




On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Jim <jim618@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Let me know if you think this is a good idea (or not!)
> and if you have any questions.

Being able to promote a fast SPV desktop wallet would be great!

I went through an cycle of testing on multibit after I saw some
complaints when it went up on the page before without at lot of
discussion. There were a number of issues with it at the time, in
particular the frequent deadlocks=E2=80=94 though Mike was saying that thos= e
should be fixed.

I see some of the the other things that were concerning for me at the
time are still uncorrected though, e.g. no proxy support (so users
can't follow our recommended best practices of using it with Tor),
that it reuses addresses (esp for change), that it doesn't clearly
distinguish confirmation level. It also make repeated https
connections to 141.101.113.245? (I'm not seeing the IP in the source, and it doesn't have a useful reverse dns entry, so I can't tell wha= t
its for). =C2=A0Is there any timeframe for changing any of this stuff?

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