Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5872C002D for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2022 07:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948CC40121 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2022 07:53:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org 948CC40121 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.648 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.648 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FZZ7barEjClB for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2022 07:53:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org 72E4D400C8 Received: from mail-ot1-f50.google.com (mail-ot1-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72E4D400C8 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2022 07:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ot1-f50.google.com with SMTP id t8-20020a9d5908000000b0063b41908168so16368052oth.8 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2022 00:53:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=iXsfNnec0k29NLn74MmGe8fmx1l5ROTjZB/KuQVvBT8=; b=hrjUVVruU3+pf0QafzJwLQHPEi6v5RHnkWx1eaXyoFPaIlyX2g+Szu4uUiqIMZjyqj FwBH6xbq48MFuou5VE8CGKS1UBCIbcE8oBMLJoYreT3XiJT6Ic7WV9eCOUpiatsRqKBe bmoW2nE7JgiaWYGsojxY7XPLfofd9rb/o+tJN/bjeV+b30zyOMeVA5onFbPZrtW23/F1 O00RCOM/TUJoEtqZwq30IIHnXK3YAcX9X79A2KzKCdAcbrnxx11xZeP24Ow4K+jaEDnk +afKC2SLjPqE4kLUwhKJPa6Ye6dmM5uH65/YcW/vnZENsEFPXjBVIBQWrWkTSL2rNGhm AlqA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf31Qr6FUZv73UgfSAFu7Lwez0R9StJ3Aw54X2glgKXqODlhsaj4 3KV3MxhjJkxJ/x8U5pm+mx2bI6+xGpLfesG4FzvGzg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM6Ah9QFpFOXlRSqleAvupaj6IFZgCq/KCz1UbB1VDNxV02XymntNY8BtN4YPf+9fwIUDU85ZhIHzWcOBDCni4Y= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:63cc:0:b0:655:f233:a151 with SMTP id e12-20020a9d63cc000000b00655f233a151mr3891145otl.357.1663401182912; Sat, 17 Sep 2022 00:53:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Devrandom Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 09:52:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Antoine Riard , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a07b6505e8dac465" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 08:14:50 +0000 Cc: Buck O Perley Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] On a new community process to specify covenants X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 07:53:06 -0000 --000000000000a07b6505e8dac465 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 9:18 PM Antoine Riard via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Hi Buck, > [...] > > I would vote against Slack. IRC is probably the best but maybe too high a > barrier to entry? Publishing logs at least would counter concerns of it > being exclusive. Maybe discord as an alternative. > > I would say I really like IRC too. The strong text-based format, the lack > of avatar emoji, the low-bar to participate pseudonymously, the leveling > field for non-native speakers contrary to audio and the easiness to grab > the mics, all features valuable for such a process I think. > > If IRC is still considered a technical high-bar for a standard > communication organ by many community stakeholders, discord is an > alternative. > I would rule out Discord, since it requires phone numbers. It doesn't require them for every user, but it's based on some risk measurement. The phone flow is probably more likely to be triggered by VPN / Tor. --000000000000a07b6505e8dac465 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 9:18 PM Antoi= ne Riard via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
Hi Buck,
[...]

I would vote against Slack. IRC is pr= obably the best but maybe too high a barrier to entry? Publishing logs at l= east would counter concerns of it being exclusive. Maybe discord as an alte= rnative.

I would say I really like IRC too. The strong text-based fo= rmat, the lack of avatar emoji, the low-bar to participate pseudonymously, = the leveling field for non-native speakers contrary to audio and the easine= ss to grab the mics, all features valuable for such a process I think.
<= br>If IRC is still considered a technical high-bar for a standard communica= tion organ by many community stakeholders, discord is an alternative.

I would rule out Discord, since it req= uires phone numbers.=C2=A0 It doesn't require them for every user, but = it's based on some risk measurement.=C2=A0 The phone flow is probably m= ore likely to be triggered by VPN / Tor.

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