Return-Path: Received: from whitealder.osuosl.org (smtp1.osuosl.org [140.211.166.138]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C06C07FF; Sun, 17 May 2020 09:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whitealder.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1E188106; Sun, 17 May 2020 09:12:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from whitealder.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MpBoE1bkyxD3; Sun, 17 May 2020 09:12:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-vk1-f172.google.com (mail-vk1-f172.google.com [209.85.221.172]) by whitealder.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C81E8880F6; Sun, 17 May 2020 09:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk1-f172.google.com with SMTP id p7so1674665vkf.5; Sun, 17 May 2020 02:12:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifewithalacrity-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hyBgKrvIL4L2gstXRV6lVIuaqnyLIVgIiQd20RwXBi0=; b=CgiMpD68y5++EFMqOJzyImbqJziDMoyrbPx0RAg0nYT4B1r1TBKVuMQK+4YB973JD+ 2EMpFjH4V7Q6nqsrUSMEY9edxM6xayqu3pfbI8BBi1HJB6dHvf8l+WyGI2AgJeWHbSnY 03E5FIU3TfDzWnh3eQJr1r+sYMKHAEXc9BB/xSl7Ovug/wCpDMYL/lQTfoNrMBu0Pjug b+sQmLpH7ZMlSetJgAsIa702GIkiPlCfruMEvVgIYPVuGxNt4XcA2m/udVUH24itA0Tx F3JwCjlPaika+NdgDgLs8PMV3QoL36RyI6pjXWkyjgSL4IQ8h4VA6Hk32iTc3G2+7V1h JQww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hyBgKrvIL4L2gstXRV6lVIuaqnyLIVgIiQd20RwXBi0=; b=BesyZoFdutQK15DhBOvvLmwQJFVgBYxKw3W0Y5ZcVpFTmBlJ+TYZGA7Dk70G7vSq/z K1n6aaZgTLVov+eaLKO4IZxRZQNpGIMBJ+7q0xJWp48nbKTa+rCeMK80Sad9NuGZtVqR eNBc0C5dvdI5r3PIYGjz3XaYSaAStmF7CXuqEcvyH32VE7fzT3qz9q0S5dvwbLuKU/ED QzkmYMIZ1e5Ey5yasUEWqK5xW7KVqkBJio7poyX/70iYaJgvcHwat7N+YNFb1Xolhtb+ oLeIKKHO+5H7B3QH/36y5VZVPgmnhsp5UvPF8f0JL91u/qxjUAhdtcitUGQIzQuuAS/e 3mFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53093DwwJ3R0nvi20X0JBgCrdNkrr7Pg8/9tPubYaRa/E40l4pQz Wcye3aIOwDVSF3yNxaPCinz6FRBBiPMHgSMVzsI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwuXfaUd0rJRN1On4QnxNbQuegYZHySxNjGmkI1R885jXYtpM4q0MFVSxR7IQvIuyBz+xTO2FgHRRquJWXUi/c= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:1f52:: with SMTP id f79mr7673456vkf.63.1589706729629; Sun, 17 May 2020 02:12:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202005051300.38836.luke@dashjr.org> <6883e35a-e584-523f-d6f9-cf9ce2cca66d@riseup.net> <45FD4FF1-1E09-4748-8B05-478DEF6C1966@ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: From: Christopher Allen Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 02:11:33 -0700 Message-ID: To: Keagan McClelland , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000eaac0005a5d470c2" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 17 May 2020 11:41:48 +0000 Cc: Orfeas Stefanos Thyfronitis Litos , "lightning-dev\\\\\\\\@lists.linuxfoundation.org" Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] On the scalability issues of onboarding millions of LN mobile clients X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 09:12:12 -0000 --000000000000eaac0005a5d470c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:30 AM Keagan McClelland via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > It should be therefore a top priority to make the UX of connecting my > mobile LN client to my home full node extremely easy, so that centralised > services can't improve much on that step. Especially if I already run a > full node. > There already is an emerging approach for this, called QuickConnect https://github.com/BlockchainCommons/Bitcoin-Standup/blob/master/Docs/Quick= -Connect-API.md It is currently offered by BitcoinStandup (both Mac and Linux), BTCPayServer, Nodl, MyNode, RaspiBlitz full node tools and hardware, and is used currently by FullyNoded, FullyNoded2, and a couple of other experimental apps to allow secure connection via Tor v3 from a remote to your own personal full node. We know that QuickConnect needs another major iteration and welcome contributions to requirements and/or proposals for the next version. We invite you to share your thoughts here. https://github.com/BlockchainCommons/Bitcoin-Standup/issues/66 =E2=80=94 Christopher Allen --000000000000eaac0005a5d470c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:30 AM Keaga= n McClelland via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org&= gt; wrote:
> It should be therefore a top priority to make the UX = of connecting my=20 mobile LN client to my home full node extremely easy, so that=20 centralised services can't improve much on that step. Especially if I= =20 already run a full node.

There already is an emerging approach for this, = called QuickConnect https://g= ithub.com/BlockchainCommons/Bitcoin-Standup/blob/master/Docs/Quick-Connect-= API.md

It is currently offered by Bitcoin= Standup (both Mac and Linux), BTCPayServer, Nodl, MyNode, RaspiBlitz full n= ode tools and hardware, and is used currently by FullyNoded, FullyNoded2, a= nd a couple of other experimental apps to allow secure connection via Tor v= 3 from a remote to your own personal full node.=C2=A0

We know that QuickConnect needs another major iteration and welcom= e contributions to requirements and/or proposals for the next version.

We invite you= to share your thoughts here.=C2=A0https://github.= com/BlockchainCommons/Bitcoin-Standup/issues/66

=E2=80=94 Christopher Allen
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