Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A939A13A8 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 07:16:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5703513D for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 07:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF9F7C13AD; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 00:16:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1441091813; bh=eh4rjQQFOgM/0QsCgoPKCNARweBy+WYJJs0ojSeBEkQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=fSxcHds9LxB0dVp/jsiZNR0UwwCOwDG/n/nBKgj2MiBJTyCXbBXAmX39Ktl/uYUmY 461MdShAsfyhoJjK0nDMkvh0cPMcB3VApU2JkPKV8vB0yCzjLfs1IxwJ8/RkFjXPUZ OnSl5VN5qsr22sx3oEW/IkJqqdpBiXKOIH3UTJ2Y= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: odinn.cyberguerrilla) with ESMTPSA id 1428A1C036B Message-ID: <55E550DF.80806@riseup.net> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 07:16:47 +0000 From: odinn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hurricanewarn1@aol.com, bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org References: <14f864c1631-3abb-a855@webprd-a67.mail.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <14f864c1631-3abb-a855@webprd-a67.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at mx1.riseup.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] AT&T has effectively banned Bitcoin nodes by closing port 8333 via a hidden firewall in the cable box X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 07:16:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Another note on this subject to add to the stuff people have already mentioned... If you have the AT&T landline but don't use AT&T's standard internet / tv (what they call Uverse) offering - that is, if you prefer to use some local internet provider - you are probably better off (in terms of avoiding not only this sort of blockage/censorship but as well, potentially getting a better privacy policy that isn't going to be like AT&T's long-term data retention). You can check directly with the various local small ISPs to see what their policies are specifically on ports and whatnot. Ideally your ISP should let you: port forward to SOMEPORTNUMBER for tcp and udp (above may or may not be helpful for some if you are using decentralized markets) have port 8333 open (above is for bitcoin of course) Supposing you have FTTN because you are paying a local ISP for internet service, and that local ISP has contracted with AT&T to be able to provide service in an area where old-style DSL has been phased out, thus your local ISP is essentially providing you AT&T FTTN. (FTTN is Fiber to the Node, FTTN-BP is FTTN Bonded Pair). Even if a local ISP has its own privacy policy posted which is different from AT&T, everything is subject to AT&T data retention because the FTTN. So get yourself a VPN (or set up your own) for your connection. Tor will run through the VPN. General observations - TWC stores your IP and other stuffs for 6 months or longer. Same for Comcast. Verizon retains your stuffs for 18 month minimum, probably longer though. Qwest/Century, 1 year. Cox, 6 months. AT&T retains for longer than a year. This is just what they are telling you, the reality is it's probably longer due to stuff like this: https://www.lawfareblog.com/odni-and-doj-release-last-section-215-collec tion-order Zach G via bitcoin-dev: > I have been struggling to get port 8333 open all year, I gave up > and was using blockchain for months despite a strong desire to stay > on Bitcoin Core, but now the issue has reached critical mass since > I'm using the python Bitcoin server module. I have literally spent > my entire day trying to open 8333, I thoroughly made sure it was > open on the router and computer and it's still closed. Strangely > enough I got it open for 30 seconds once today but something closed > it immediately. > > After hours of phone calls and messaging AT&T finally told me the > truth of what was going on, and only because I noticed it myself > and demanded an answer. The internet is being routed through a > DVR/cable box, and they confirmed the DVR also has a firewall. To > make this even more absurd they refused to turn the firewall off > because it is their equipment. So effectively they can firewall any > port they want even if the customer asks them not to, in the > unlikely event the customer figures it out. > > Perhaps this is the driving force behind the inexplicable and > massive decline in Bitcoin nodes. Bitcoin is being censored by the > ISPs themselves, and they won't even tell you that. I had to get in > touch with headquarters and threaten to rip it out of the wall to > get a proper answer. > > > > _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing > list bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > - -- http://abis.io ~ "a protocol concept to enable decentralization and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good" https://keybase.io/odinn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJV5VDeAAoJEGxwq/inSG8CvkIH/jy4Vo+My3xeBdvFQmxkJWyQ U5mv2zWEvBYw71Xy1EDzQY1AhEBmatUU1eu2AbOqXdUR4511FxCNzFmTxy6roEiz EehBkvXNbBCbEzLRisjxuQw34OKM+xfieCqE1mzJok2uSdLMMQLcbWL1/k3/OmS5 9O9z/wMXqU1Jc19MTK+vF1Lz5ilnRn3hEbTaCN3ivYnYFa0DpBH9r0Y07UcoJ6Wr ui/x0sSSuupAGzOkZ75HQ8yeQXckeAu6TB3/jE8QEqNUmAJkmR8eK4ofXZWFrIjy mOKeQL4c+jRQnTR8pt+y89g2QIpzFoHaV5T+WvQuC1t8xNOrxLgYFXWgl0dhoYE= =UCLC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----