Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B83B925A for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:38:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail.jymx.de (jymx.de [81.169.251.53]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE84663 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from b2b-130-180-101-166.unitymedia.biz ([130.180.101.166]:43925 helo=[192.168.88.252]) by mail.jymx.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRRAM-00009R-MQ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:37:58 +0200 Message-ID: <55D24625.40806@olivere.de> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:37:57 +0200 From: Oliver Egginger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Warren Togami Jr." , Bitcoin Dev References: <6EC9DDF352DC4838AE9B088AB372428A25E1F42A@DS04> <55D1C81D.4070402@olivere.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:38:01 -0000 Am 17.08.2015 um 21:03 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.: > This bitcoin-dev list restarted with an empty subscriber list on June > 21st, 2015. So whoever posted from satoshi@vistomail.com > subscribed and verified the address > recently. Do you propose that we manually approve new subscribers to > prevent these kind of "abuses" as you put it? I would simply block the creators old email addresses. Easy with Mailman. I thought that would be a good and easy approach, but maybe I'm wrong. Some believes it is possible that the email could be genuine. Some say that only the content is important. I have closely followed. An interesting discussion. Thank you all so far. But let's say the poster would be the real Satoshi. Would we discuss his posting if he would not claim to be Satoshi? There are a lot of smart people on this list, which publish occasionally quite useful ideas. But much of this is hardly the subject of greater discussion. Especially not when it comes to the blocksize. On this subject almost everything has been already said. But not yet by everyone. Especially not by Satoshi. Satoshi would have a decisive influence on the community. I'm sure. To say it does not matter who's talking is maybe genteelly but a little bit remote from everyday life. Or not? Satoshi is the creator. What he says is in the newspaper and is perceived by all. If he says it's okay to do nothing as long as we stand together, then people have the courage to do maybe something dangerous or something wrong. Then people only follow their hearts. Otherwise they follow their fear. It is a paradox of the human nature that some type of Dictatorship can make you free. I say some type, not any type. Enough said. - oliver