Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56F3B10D7 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 00:43:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from zinan.dashjr.org (zinan.dashjr.org [192.3.11.21]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ED8187 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 00:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ishibashi.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:5:265:61b6:56a6:b03d:28d6]) (Authenticated sender: luke-jr) by zinan.dashjr.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02CA01080051; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 00:41:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Hashcash: 1:25:150904:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org::SM+bFUqJBnsdosq4:fSdYp X-Hashcash: 1:25:150904:theandychase@gmail.com::0=eUTEXhH45uY8aV:/Oj2 From: Luke Dashjr To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Andy Chase Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 00:41:07 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/4.1.1-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) References: <64B72DF6-BE37-4624-ADAA-CE28C14A4227@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64B72DF6-BE37-4624-ADAA-CE28C14A4227@gmail.com> X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: E463 A93F 5F31 17EE DE6C 7316 BD02 9424 21F4 889F X-PGP-Key-ID: BD02942421F4889F X-PGP-Keyserver: hkp://pgp.mit.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201509040041.07948.luke@dashjr.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP/Draft] BIP Acceptance Process X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 00:43:00 -0000 On Friday, September 04, 2015 12:30:50 AM Andy Chase via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Here's a BIP. I wrote the BIP mostly to stir the pot on ideas of > governance, but I=E2=80=99m moderately serious about it. Sigh. There is *no governance at all*. Any such a BIP like this needs to=20 document the natural forces involved in real-world acceptance, not try to l= ay=20 down "rules" that people are expected to follow. =46or hardforks, that means economic consensus. For softforks, miner majori= ty.=20 =46or basically anything else, real-world implementation and use (by any=20 significant quantity of people). Luke