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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 21:12:03 +0000
From: odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup.net>
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To: Adam Back <adam@cypherspace.org>, pete@petertodd.org, 
	genjix@riseup.net, Mike Hearn <hearn@vinumeris.com>
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Let's deploy BIP65 CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY!
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And still no movement on BIP 63...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1083961.20

Apart from that,

All my prior objections to XT still hold as expressed on this list.
XT is not acceptable.

On the topic of consensus:

Reaching consensus, I hope, is something that developers can
accomplish by refining and adjusting the BIPS and coming to agreement
upon them.  This should be something that can be done in a few months
time, before the end of the year.

Cheers,

- - O

Adam Back via bitcoin-dev:
> I wonder what Gavin's views are, he's usually constructive, and see
> if he'll include it in XT - I think he may have said he was
> supportive.
> 
> The rationale for soft vs hard-forks is well known, so I wont go
> over them.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> On 28 September 2015 at 06:48, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev 
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> There is no consensus on using a soft fork to deploy this
>> feature. It will result in the same problems as all the other
>> soft forks - SPV wallets will become less reliable during the
>> rollout period. I am against that, as it's entirely avoidable.
>> 
>> Make it a hard fork and my objection will be dropped.
>> 
>> Until then, as there is no consensus, you need to do one of two
>> things:
>> 
>> 1) Drop the "everyone must agree to make changes" idea that
>> people here like to peddle, and do it loudly, so everyone in the
>> community is correctly informed
>> 
>> 2) Do nothing
>> 
>> 
>> 
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