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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.237.132.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1YDdr4-0004Hq-A8 Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] The legal risks of auto-updating wallet software; custodial relationships X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:48:50 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B3223AFB-0862-4D22-9AE5-E91E60F0A072 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_20EEBC25-AA6C-42FF-A5A9-1EC4A0CC6F72" --Apple-Mail=_20EEBC25-AA6C-42FF-A5A9-1EC4A0CC6F72 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Justus, In contrary.=20 Not being in the jurisdiction of the wallet provider makes it harder for = the user to reclaim funds taken by the wallet provider. The legal hurdle to force confiscation through a wallet provider might = also be lower if the target user is not domestic. Tamas Blummer --Apple-Mail=_20EEBC25-AA6C-42FF-A5A9-1EC4A0CC6F72 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Justus,</div><div><br></div><div>In contrary. </div><div><br></div><div>Not being in the jurisdiction of the wallet provider makes it harder for the user to reclaim funds taken by the wallet provider.</div><div>The legal hurdle to force confiscation through a wallet provider might also be lower if the target user is not domestic.</div><div><br></div><div apple-content-edited="true"> <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Tamas Blummer</div></div></body></html> --Apple-Mail=_20EEBC25-AA6C-42FF-A5A9-1EC4A0CC6F72-- --Apple-Mail=_B3223AFB-0862-4D22-9AE5-E91E60F0A072 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJUvqMGAAoJEPZykcUXcTkcdisIAMSStvobjPmAds3nuKD7ye2M 8Y8julZ3hAePv69ALa/5xMfFOE7cuA22W/wZgMO72UKumX7f2qGvX/+m/kXhiJ0G 11l6AmNa8ZXlDrA2MASA0bUBUPUGXiDQP0Di62aLWlHTrDUwmohwYuG8cm33nhII rlQhCry5RRfCM1dbAF8NNKMmbgTcVB/zbMdP9wbOJD8B4Qal407KuVj4LTR2K2XW zcZbOS6cGRxt46U0+f0yNOH3uiPvNg4pv81SdKcRrT1Gya2+1yA8XFQcwFoK2+2j EORTNL2ux7Y3HsKfkQnq+f6CdeHHfM+N2goOzyRKh+oOKOCDPVgOB8UEg2UkJPE= =GoXU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_B3223AFB-0862-4D22-9AE5-E91E60F0A072--