Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QwGbM-0003PC-9f for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:46:52 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.216.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.182; envelope-from=gmaxwell@gmail.com; helo=mail-qy0-f182.google.com; Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com ([209.85.216.182]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1QwGbH-0000SR-U7 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:46:52 +0000 Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so1129196qyk.13 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:46:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.31.67 with SMTP id x3mr3714544qcc.292.1314204402278; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.114.206 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:46:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201108241215.36847.luke@dashjr.org> References: <201108241215.36847.luke@dashjr.org> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:46:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: Gregory Maxwell To: Luke-Jr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (gmaxwell[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-Headers-End: 1QwGbH-0000SR-U7 Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] New standard transaction types: time to schedule a blockchain split? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:46:52 -0000 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Luke-Jr wrote: > - Replace hard limits (like 1 MB maximum block size) with something that = can > dynamically adapt with the times. Maybe based on difficulty so it can't b= e > gamed? Too early for that. > - Adjust difficulty every block, without limits, based on a N-block slidi= ng > =C2=A0window. I think this would solve the issue when the hashrate drops > =C2=A0overnight, but maybe also add a block time limit, or perhaps includ= e the > =C2=A0"current block" in the difficulty calculation? The quantized scheme limits the amount of difficulty skew miners can create by lying about timestamps to about a half a percent. A rolling window with the same time constant would allow much more skew. > Replacing the "Satoshi" 64-bit integers with > "Satoshi" variable-size fractions (ie, infinite numerator + denominator) Increasing precision I would agree with but, sadly, causing people to need more than 64 bit would create a lot of bugs. infinite numerator + denominator is absolutely completely and totally batshit insane. For one, it has weird consequences that the same value can have redundant encodings. Most importantly, it suffers factor inflation: If you spend inputs 1/977 1/983 1/991 1/997 the smallest denominator you can use for the output 948892238557. Not to mention that the idiots writing financial software can only barely manage to not use radix-2 floating point on everything. Asking them to use arbitrary rational numbers with mixed radix will never fly. > - Remove the 100 confirmation requirement for spending generated coins. I= f > they are respent before 100 confirmations, clients can/should flag the n= ew > outputs as also "generated" or "recently generated" so recipients are aw= are > of the risk. Please lets not make bitcoin _less_ trustworthy. The 100 block maturity on generated coins is good. The generation from an orphaning is lost forever like the losing side of a double spend, but far far worse... because orphaning happens all the time on its own without any malice. I agree it's obnoxious that you can't pad your generation payouts without creating more transactions, but I don't see a solution for that. Repeat the addresses... make up for it by increasing your payout threshold.