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X-Headers-End: 1XUKvd-0008KD-N8 Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] =?utf-8?q?Payment_Protocol_Proposal=3A=09In?= =?utf-8?q?voices/Payments/Receipts?= X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 19:30:15 -0000 Alan Reiner gmail.com> writes: > > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Gavin Andresen gmail.com> wrote:When I say "pass around" I'm not thinking of users copying and pasting, that would be a terrible user experience; all of that communication needs to happen automatically behind the scenes. Lets tackle that after we've got the simpler customer-pays-merchant flow working nicely (funded-escrow-pays-merchant is a subset of that, anyway). > > > > > I think that the "pass around" method needs to happen in addition to the methods of transparent protocols that occur behind the scenes.  For one, there's a lot of CONOPs that need to be worked out by getting knowledgeable people using it, and providing feedback about how it could/should/will be used and how it could be improved.  The pass-around method is simpler to implement and still usable by the types of users that will be using it in the beginning -- experts.  Also, I see that for very large, important multi-sig tx/contracts/escrow, the "manual" method might be preferred -- much the same way many people prefer manual-transmission cars even though automatics are "easier" -- some people/organizations will want the control.    > > I'm all for protocols that enable higher-level access to this functionality, I'm just saying there should be lower-level access, too. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. 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