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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:13:08 -0400
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From: Steven Pine <steven.pine@gmail.com>
To: NxtChg <nxtchg@hush.com>
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Scaling Bitcoin conference micro-report
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That's a simple fallacy, historically governments even hegemons, fail, in
fact it would be odd to assert that a government will not fail, therefore
ascribing godlike and limitless powers to a government is again the view of
either a shill or someone untutored in history.

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 5:10 PM, NxtChg <nxtchg@hush.com> wrote:

>
> >Anyone who doesn't consider governments the proper threat model is either
> a shill or an idiot.
>
> You meant to say "threat". This is what threat model is:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat_model
>
> Nobody here discounts governments as a threat.
>
> As to the "proper threat model", you can't construct one since your
> attacker is essentially unbounded.
>
> For example, any large government could easily obtain 51% of hash power
> and then only accept transactions from "certified services".
>
>


-- 
Steven Pine
(510) 517-7075

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<div dir=3D"ltr">That&#39;s a simple fallacy, historically governments even=
 hegemons, fail, in fact it would be odd to assert that a government will n=
ot fail, therefore ascribing godlike and limitless powers to a government i=
s again the view of either a shill or someone untutored in history.</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 20, 201=
5 at 5:10 PM, NxtChg <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nxtchg@hush.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">nxtchg@hush.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><br>
&gt;Anyone who doesn&#39;t consider governments the proper threat model is =
either a shill or an idiot.<br>
<br>
</span>You meant to say &quot;threat&quot;. This is what threat model is: <=
a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat_model" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat_model</a><br>
<br>
Nobody here discounts governments as a threat.<br>
<br>
As to the &quot;proper threat model&quot;, you can&#39;t construct one sinc=
e your attacker is essentially unbounded.<br>
<br>
For example, any large government could easily obtain 51% of hash power and=
 then only accept transactions from &quot;certified services&quot;.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Steven Pine<div>(510) 517-7075</=
div></div></div></div>
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