Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D7D11AB1 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 17:29:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mx-out01.mykolab.com (mx01.mykolab.com [95.128.36.1]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 675FE1D4 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 17:29:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kolabnow.com X-Spam-Score: -2.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from mx03.mykolab.com (mx03.mykolab.com [10.20.7.101]) by mx-out01.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EFDF615F8 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 19:29:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Tom Zander To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:26:12 +0100 Message-ID: <2142297.qudDqxHTIz@garp> In-Reply-To: References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] This thread is not about the soft/hard fork technical debate X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 17:29:13 -0000 On Monday 5. October 2015 18.03.05 Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev wrote: > However, I would like to challenge your assumption of point 1 that th= at by > Mike making a rabble, it somehow makes CLTV deployment controversial.= His > arguments have been refuted. Unsuccessfully. > Simply making a noise does not make something controversial. When it = is > controversial, it is obvious and plain to see. I think its plain to see the soft fork is controversial. But that=E2=80=99s not the point. The point is that Bitcoin Core claims to have a consensus mechanism and= sticks=20 to "no change" on not reaching a consensus. And that rule is the reason= why=20 bigger blocks were blocked for years. History has shown that for many decision making processes this doesn't = work,=20 and this argument has been made to Core.=20 Until today this was essentially a rule that hurt the things that Mike = was=20 really passionate about. Today this hurts the things that some other devs are passionate about. I think today is the day that everyone should agree that the past is th= e past=20 and we all learned our lesson and Bitcoin Core will make decisions a di= fferent=20 way.